MD - Freddie Gray dies in police custody #3 *INDICTMENT*

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  1. dandy

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  2. bettybaby00

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    BBM this comment is striking in that she's already anticipating riots...could it be bc she knows how bogus the charges are?

    Hmmmm, judge shopping by this prosecutor, she did say "by any and all means necessary," did she not?
     
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    Police accused in Freddie Gray's death say they gave statements under duress

    Two of the officers said that when investigators asked them to provide statements about the circumstances surrounding Gray's arrest, they were led to believe they were doing so as witnesses — not as suspects.

    Another said she provided a statement without being advised of her Miranda rights, then was ordered to return five days later to be read her rights and provide another statement.

    "Because the defendants subjectively felt that any refusal to cooperate in the investigation would result in their termination, and such belief was objectively reasonable, and because they were asked to waive their Fifth Amendment rights, their statements" should be suppressed, attorneys for Rice and Porter argued in a motion.

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/ma...rate-trial-motions-20150717-story.html#page=1
     
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    Interesting. What did they say, that they now want suppressed?
     
  5. Montjoy

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    The most important part of what?

    The issue here isn't about whether the knife was illegal or not. Guilty or innocent, anyone who is arrested has the same right to safe custody.

    The LE here are not being prosecuted for false arrest. Or are you suggesting that if his knife was illegal, the LE who arrested him could do whatever they wanted to punish him? I hope not.
     
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    C'mon, that's not what they're suggesting.

    The legality of the knife is significant b/c when MM held her press conference she asserted that FG was falsely arrested b/c the knife was legal. Many of the charges were based on the "fact" that the knife was legal. Days of coverage were dedicated to the legality of the knife, and the differences in Baltimore City law versus MD law. We even got to see Anderson Cooper (among others) wielding various knives while explaining the difference between switchblades and spring assisted blades.

    Talk about adding fuel to the fire. A legal knife meant he should have never been arrested in the first place.

    MOOOOOOOOOOOOO
     
  7. dandy

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    thanks bbaby00. i'd just like to add that honesty, credibility and integrity are key factors for a district atty. this judge shopping claim does not reflect very well on her office, if true. add to this all the other documented errors she's made (the links are in the prior pages should anyone like to review).

    the judge is sitting on so many motions - wonder when they'll be argued?

    and to answer montjoy's question - did freddie gray cause/contribute to his death? that's the question i'd like to see answered.

    edit - change of venue article published yesterday (nothing new) http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/ma...ray-motions-battle-20150719-story.html#page=1
     
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    Slap.....from the ruling....

    It's funny, yet it isn't. What makes one giggle is that given MMs missteps there are many questioning her law degree.

    What's not funny however is the stage that she has set. It's likely many of these charges won't stick, resulting in either acquittals or very reduced convictions. Then what? She has defined "justice" as these 6 cops being held responsible for FGs death, and when that doesn't happen many are going to be very, very angry. She got so far ahead of herself, that the already angry residents won't listen to why they weren't found guilty of murder. They've been told justice will be served, bc it is "their time." I guess she'll try to spin it as she's still their hero, it's the system that failed. SMH
     
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    "Attorneys for six Baltimore police officers charged in the arrest and death of Freddie Gray said in a court filing Thursday that prosecutors either failed to turn over evidence or lied about conducting a thorough investigation into Gray's death.

    The evidence already provided by prosecutors is "completely devoid of any information obtained during the course of the State's investigation," the defense attorneys said, leading them to conclude that "either the State is withholding the information from its investigation, or there was no investigation."

    "Knowledge of which of these alternatives is true is essential to the Defendants' ability to prepare a proper defense," the attorneys wrote in their motion."

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/freddie-gray/bs-md-ci-gray-mosby-investigation-20150723-story.html
     
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    yikes - Chief Deputy State's Attorney Michael Schatzow is on fire! sadly, the article doesn't have their filing - short snippet

    Prosecutors plan to seek sanctions against the defense attorneys for six Baltimore police officers charged in Freddie Gray's death, accusing them of "factual mendacity and legal malarkey."

    the part of the article i don't understand is why he included the judge in his statement = isn't that a tad presumptuous? it's regarding the judge shopping allegation.

    quote: "The Defendants' Motion to Suppress is a baseless, scurrilous attack on the integrity of a distinguished Circuit Court Judge and a well-respected Assistant State's Attorney," Schatzow wrote.

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/ma...rosecutors-seek-sanctions-20150724-story.html
     
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    jmo but what a joke this whole case has turned into.
     
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    Defense attorneys repeated their assertion that a prosecutor — identified for the first time as Assistant State's Attorney Albert Peisinger — communicated improperly with a Circuit Court judge to get the warrants signed after the first judge he tried found that they lacked probable cause.

    Defense attorneys say they also discovered an unexecuted warrant for the officers' private cellphones that was never disclosed to them in discovery, and another warrant — for the same personal phones — that was denied.

    The defense filing is a response to a motion filed last week by the office of Baltimore State's Attorney Marilyn J. Mosby in which prosecutors called the judge-shopping claim a "falsehood" and suggested it would ask the court to sanction the attorneys who brought it.
     
  15. K_Z

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    More like a nightmare for the 6 officers.

    The more I read about Marilyn Mosby, the less I'm impressed with her. Her entire life has been about circumventing established rules and procedures-- so why should this case be any different? To give just one example, instead of WORKING and STUDYING to improve her LSAT score to get into Law School (she applied to many, and was waitlisted or declined), she circumvented the standard admission process with her own "plan". All of this to me says she EXPECTS preferential treatment when she decides she won't follow well established rules and procedures (and laws). She clearly believes she is an "extra speshul snowflake", and should get "extra speshul treatment" whenever she decides she wants it, IMO.

    So, it's of no surprise to me that her "methods" of "investigation" and charging in a case like THIS, are "unconventional" (and probably fraudulent and illegal). This woman is a piece of work. I have little to no respect for her, and I definitely don't think she is deserving of any awards. I don't think she is qualified for the role she is currently elected to. She is not "good" for Baltimore, IMO.

    http://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/news/a42402/marilyn-mosby/

    http://articles.philly.com/2015-07-14/news/64371327_1_mosby-baltimore-prosecutor-top-prosecutor
     
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    Hmm, I guess she never considered studying more and then taking the test again?

    I can only imagine what sort of threats persuasion she utilized in her "interviews."

    BC must be so proud. SMH
     
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    All of that shows in her stumbling and fumbling in bringing the charges so far. And her arrogance of being onstage at The Prince concert and her mismanaging the info about the 'illegal' knife---then suddenly dropping those charges and inserting a new charge instead. And when called out with legal motions she answers with hysteric and hyperbole> very embarrassing, imo

    ETA{ and the way she kept touting her Law Enforcement background, being 5 th generation LE. Never once mentioning the many corruption charges her 'LE family' was convicted of.
     
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    [h=1]URGENT - Baltimore State's Attorney deputy once defended Freddie Gray[/h]Baltimore's Deputy State's Attorney, who is prosecuting the six police officers for the in-custody death of Freddie Gray, once represented the victim in an unrelated 2012 criminal case, court documents show.


     
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    More details emerge on Batts meeting after Freddie Gray death

    A Baltimore man who met with city police officials in the aftermath of Freddie Gray's death said he told then-Police Commissioner Anthony Batts he was Gray's brother-in-law, even though he was a friend of the family. The childhood friend of Gray's said he met with Batts and other officials on April 23 and introduced himself as Gray's brother-in-law, which he considers himself.


     
  20. K_Z

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    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/ma...sanctions-evidence-20150730-story.html#page=1

    Posted an hour ago. Much more at link that is worth reading in full. ~KZ
     
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