GUILTY MD - Hae Min Lee, 17, Baltimore, 13 Jan 1999

imstilla.grandma · Aug 22, 2019

You may already know about the case of Adnan Syed, a Maryland man who was convicted as a teenager for the murder of his ex-girlfriend, Hae Min Lee, in 1999. His trial was scrutinized in the immensely popular true-crime podcast Serial and an HBO documentary series, both of which cast doubt on his guilt and the process surrounding Syed’s conviction. Now, it’s also the subject of a petition to the US Supreme Court.

The US Supreme Court is faced with the podcast-popular case of Adnan Syed

epiphany · Nov 26, 2019

U.S. Supreme Court Won't Hear Adnan Syed's Appeal, Keeping 'Serial' Subject In Prison

<snip> The U.S. Supreme Court announced Monday that it will not consider an appeal filed by convicted killer Adnan Syed, the main subject of the first season of the podcast Serial, leaving in place a state appeals court decision keeping him in prison for life.

U.S. Supreme Court Won't Hear Adnan Syed's Appeal, Keeping 'Serial' Subject In Prison

‘Serial’ Podcast Case Is Declined by Supreme Court
The justices left in place a ruling by Maryland’s highest court denying Adnan Syed a new trial in the 1999 killing of Hae Min Lee.

‘Serial’ Podcast Case Is Declined by Supreme Court

Crimefighter331 · Sep 22, 2020

jellybeanz said: ↑

There's a lot of talk about Adnan loaning his car and cell to Jay on the day of the murder and that was part of his premeditation.

On the flip side to this, noone appears to be questioning whether Jay made sure his car was unavailable that day and the following day (as per Jenn's testimony that she drove Jay around Baltimore picking up shovels from dumpsters, taking to other dumpsters to discard the clothes he was wearing on the day of Hae's murder) in order for him to appear in an almost ghost like fashion those two days.

I've read that Jay's possible motive was because Hae was going to confront him on his cheating Stephanie with other girls. Hae could have called Adnan's cell that afternoon (see here for phone logs to and from Adnans cell) at 2:36pm and got Jay on the end of the line.
Jay could have easily have asked Hae to meet him right there and then to discuss his philandering ways at a secluded spot and carried out the murder.

Everything that comes out of Jay's mouth with regard to Adnan, I think that that is in fact him and his actions. I think in his 'story' of lies he therefore needs and did have an accomplice - that cannot be him as he is Adnan in the story he describes. I have to think his accomplice is Jenn, the Detective's daughter from another County. (See excessive calls to and from her on day of murder)
I also have to think this is why the investigating detectives focused entirely on Adnan and believed what Jay and Jenn told them unconditionally, despite the admitted lies and inconsistencies.

I have so so much more thoughts on the whole matter, but will stop at that for now.
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Ray_of_hope · Dec 3, 2020

msvick66 said: ↑

I have looked several times but cannot find a thread here at all on the case of Greg Witman. The Witman's appear in an episode of Serial. I have put it in the search several ways and nothing comes up. It's such a big case I'm surprised so I must not be doing something right. The case is fascinating and so tragic. I tend to think that Zach Witman could not have done what he is accused of, but I'm not sure. Wanted to find more info on it and see what people think here. There are 2 podcasts on the case, one by Generation Why and the other by a new podcast which I absolutely love called "The Insight Podcast". Both end up thinking Zach must have done it, but I still have my doubts. It just seems like he would have been drenched in blood had he been the killer. There is also a site his parents made for him trying to get him a new trial. His first attorney was CG, so that's why Sarah interviewed the parents and mentions the case on one of the later episodes of Serial. Thanks to anyone who knows anything about this and if there is a thread here discussing the case somewhere.
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Zachary Witman is now home and living with his parents in rural Pennsylvania. They moved from the home where Greg was killed when they found out Zach was coming home. In order to get out, Zach had to plead guilty to a lesser charge of manslaughter. There was no way around it. Since he didn't do so well in his first trial, Zach felt he may have had the same results and didn't want to chance it. He had served 20 years.

I don't know why there is no thread for this case either. It's so mysterious. And there has been a new lead discussed in link. I saw this documentary on the ID channel the other night and was hooked. His mom reported that Zach's trial attorney had no experts testify while the prosecution did. Doesn't sound like the attorney put his all in. I ache for Zach and Greg's mom and dad.

I wish there was a link for this case but I don't know how to start one on this new format.

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GUILTY MD - Hae Min Lee, 17, Baltimore, 13 Jan 1999

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