Found Deceased MD - Rachel Morin, 37, left for walk on Ma & Pa Trail 6pm, car found at Williams St entrance, Bel Air, 5 Aug 2023 #2

[acutename]

That fellow is NOT 5'9". He might be 5'6". This error might cause them some trouble in finding the perpetrator.

based on what? (assumed they had door frame measurements)

 

[Joe Friday]

How odd that a burglar removes his shirt and shoes. There must be fingerprints left at the home in California. Many companies and organizations fingerprint employees and members.

Maybe someone met this guy out somewhere- club, social gathering. He comes home with her, but things go south. Maybe invited to sleep on couch, but he tries to come into bedroom. Maybe a child tries to come to the rescue of Mom and was injured? This scenario could work, but why no video of him entering? Why was it previously described as a home invasion?

Being escorted by someone to the door is really strange.

I'm thinking drunk guy walks into the wrong house and crashes, after finding him sleeping on the sofa or in bedroom, perhaps a bedroom were young girl was sleeping, is then escorted out of the house by resident. Police is then called later, instead of immediately. DNA is collected from some item inside the house. No one knows who the guy is.

OR maybe a house party situation, and this unknown guy shows up, mingles, tries to get friendly with young girl, escorted to door.

For an assault to occur, there doesn't necessarily need to be a physical confrontation.


If the guy had the same cell phone with him at both scene. Cell phone tower data from towers in the area of the two crime locations may be able to be used to compare if there is a match at the known time when both incidents occurred. Phone information could then be tracked to locate subject.

Wouldn't surprise me if Genealogy DNA testing is being done as we speak. Hopefully one of his relatives submitted a sample to one of the databases to find out who their kin are.

JMO

 

[SteveP]

I agree we all see things differently, and I initially saw this on my phone. After watching on full size monitor, I can see the definition you talk about as he walks away. That's not terribly evident on a phone for my old lady eyes. So, I'd say he's fit but not buff? Not to split hairs, but yes I see some muscle definition, though not enough to indicate he's a gym rat IMO.

I agree with you about the gym. He may have a have a job that involves physical labor, or perhaps just is lucky to be young, and be blessed with good genes. And as for old lady eyes, I definitely understand, because I have the old man version.

 

[bestill]

[…]

Los Angeles police said that the suspect was involved in a residential burglary and assault that took place on March 26 in South Los Angeles. A spokeswoman said that the assault was not of a sexual nature, but that investigators did not want to disclose “any more details about what occurred in the house at this time.”

Rachel Morin murder: DNA links suspected killer to Los Angeles home invasion

The Harford County Sheriff’s Office recovered DNA from Morin’s body that was matched through the national law enforcement database to evidence from a crime in Los Angeles.

www.thebaltimorebanner.com

Relieved that there was no sexual assault.

Did anybody claim it was sexual in nature? I don't think so.

Yesterday it was posted on this thread, happy to know that didn't happen but scary for the young girl regardless.

 

[Elley Mae]

Hope LE shared suspect images to people that saw Rachel to see if they recognized from that day, if not maybe one did and will supply more info.

 

[jjenny]

Did you read the thread yesterday?

I am obviously talking about offical statements about the crime here, not speculations on the board.

 

[Elley Mae]

Is that a grocery cart at the front gate as he leaves the porch? Image at link.

Rachel Morin’s boyfriend Richard Tobin begs for help finding her ‘scum of the Earth’ murder suspect

The accused killer was seen on security video leaving a burglarized Los Angeles home.

nypost.com

 

[Alkali13]

Her FB page

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FYI - I'm a few pages behind, but her most recent FB was removed again at some point between now and yesterday.

 

[JerseyWasHome2]

FYI - I'm a few pages behind, but her most recent FB was removed again at some point between now and yesterday.

Interesting. I wonder if LE took it down initially to preserve all of the various comments and likes that she'd received over the years (that way the "friend" couldn't access her page and try to edit or remove them). I wonder if some activity occurred overnight that they want to preserve?

 

[StarryStarryNight]

Things I don’t quite understand:

—LAPD categorizes this “home invasion” as a burglary, but the guy walks out in the video with nothing that I can see.
—who breaks into a home and takes his shirt off just for the heck of it. He casually walks out like he has been sitting around watching TV or something.
—if it was not a sexual assault where did the DNA come from. I know you can get it from other sources.
—how was the young girl assaulted? Was she slapped, treated roughly to scare her?
—I’m just trying to figure out why LE in LA spent the money for DNA testing when they have really cut back on investigating crimes with minimal property loss.

 

[Alkali13]

Is that a grocery cart at the front gate as he leaves the porch? Image at link.

Rachel Morin’s boyfriend Richard Tobin begs for help finding her ‘scum of the Earth’ murder suspect

The accused killer was seen on security video leaving a burglarized Los Angeles home.

nypost.com

It might be, but that doesn't strike me as abnormal... It was such a problem near me that some stores started putting wheels on carts that lock if they're moved a certain distance away from the store. They're convenient to have in some cases.

 

[jjenny]

Things I don’t quite understand:

—LAPD categorizes this “home invasion” as a burglary, but the guy walks out in the video with nothing that I can see.
—who breaks into a home and takes his shirt off just for the heck of it. He casually walks out like he has been sitting around watching TV or something.
—if it was not a sexual assault where did the DNA come from. I know you can get it from other sources.
—how was the young girl assaulted? Was she slapped, treated roughly to scare her?
—I’m just trying to figure out why LE in LA spent the money for DNA testing when they have really cut back on investigating crimes with minimal property loss.

Even if there was a minimal property loss, assault makes it a violent crime so one hope LE in LA still investigates those. And DNA doesn't have to be from a sexual assault. There is even touch DNA now, where you can get DNA from something just touched by the suspect.

 

[Elley Mae]

If that video had been put up without explanation as to what it was about what would one think?

 

[Perky]

I'm going to assume this would be the FB page for the "77th division" LAPD the 26th March 2023 'home invasion' occurred ... LAPD 77th Street Community Police Station

 

[Shamrock1]

Things I don’t quite understand:

—LAPD categorizes this “home invasion” as a burglary, but the guy walks out in the video with nothing that I can see.
—who breaks into a home and takes his shirt off just for the heck of it. He casually walks out like he has been sitting around watching TV or something.
—if it was not a sexual assault where did the DNA come from. I know you can get it from other sources.
—how was the young girl assaulted? Was she slapped, treated roughly to scare her?
—I’m just trying to figure out why LE in LA spent the money for DNA testing when they have really cut back on investigating crimes with minimal property loss.

Burglary doesn’t require a taking. Burglary is the entry into a structure with the intent to commit a larceny or felony therein.

Law section

 

[Elley Mae]

Burglary doesn’t require a taking. Burglary is the entry into a structure with the intent to commit a larceny or felony therein.

Law section

Seems it should be breaking & entering.

Jmo

 

[StarryStarryNight]

Even if there was a minimal property loss, assault makes it a violent crime so one hope LE in LA still investigates those. And DNA doesn't have to be from a sexual assault. There is even touch DNA now, where you can get DNA from something just touched by the suspect.

That’s kinda what I was thinking.
I know technically burglary is breaking into a home with intent to steal…doesn’t mean you have to take something.
But he is so casual exiting. How long was he in there and what was he doing? Not stealing anything that I can see, they say there was no sexual assault. Was he watching Wheel of Fortune?

 

[CGBSpender]

Anyone else think that maybe he removed his shirt to conceal something he removed from the home in California? It looks like there is something underneath the item of clothing that he is holding as he makes his way out. Also, is that a gun holstered on his right hip maybe?

JMO

 

[Elley Mae]

Was there a time/date stamp on video?

Question Can LE access those ring cameras?

 

[citizen_sleuth]

That’s kinda what I was thinking.
I know technically burglary is breaking into a home with intent to steal…doesn’t mean you have to take something.
But he is so casual exiting. How long was he in there and what was he doing? Not stealing anything that I can see, they say there was no sexual assault. Was he watching Wheel of Fortune?

Definition of burglary from the Section 459 of the California Penal Code:

Every person who enters any house, room, apartment, tenement, shop, warehouse, store, mill, barn, stable, outhouse or other building, tent, vessel, as defined in Section 21 of the Harbors and Navigation Code, floating home, as defined in subdivision (d) of Section 18075.55 of the Health and Safety Code, railroad car, locked or sealed cargo container, whether or not mounted on a vehicle, trailer coach, as defined in Section 635 of the Vehicle Code, any house car, as defined in Section 362 of the Vehicle Code, inhabited camper, as defined in Section 243 of the Vehicle Code, vehicle as defined by the Vehicle Code, when the doors are locked, aircraft as defined by Section 21012 of the Public Utilities Code, or mine or any underground portion thereof, with intent to commit grand or petit larceny or any felony is guilty of burglary. As used in this chapter, “inhabited” means currently being used for dwelling purposes, whether occupied or not. A house, trailer, vessel designed for habitation, or portion of a building is currently being used for dwelling purposes if, at the time of the burglary, it was not occupied solely because a natural or other disaster caused the occupants to leave the premises.