GUILTY MD - Shadi Najjar & Artem Ziberov, fatally shot, Montgomery Co., 5 June 2017

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  1. everybodhi

    everybodhi Well-Known Member

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    Maybe the killers set them up, claiming it was their address and wanting to buy tickets, only to ambush them in the street.
     


  2. jellybeanz

    jellybeanz Well-Known Member

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    This is a conundrum
     
  3. Indy Anna

    Indy Anna Well-Known Member

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    <snip> http://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-news/260961456-story
     
  4. Indy Anna

    Indy Anna Well-Known Member

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    <snip> http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2017/06/13/parents-say-slain-teen-was-targeted/
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    I wonder what was on Shadi's cell phone that someone might want. I hope Shadi confided in someone else who can provide info to LE.

    <snip> http://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2017/06/investigators-help-md-teens-fatal-shooting/
     
  5. Daephine

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    If Shadi's cell phone was taken, then there must have been something on the phone that would have linked the killer(s) to the two boys. Maybe a text message convo?

    And if the boys were killed while in the vehicle, the killer(s) would have had to open the door - unless a window was open (or broken) - to grab the phone.

    Because it was Shadi's phone that was taken, I am leaning towards him being the initial target. Perhaps they were lured to that meeting area by the killer(s)... maybe by the promise that someone was going to buy the grad tickets. A residential area far from home is such a random place to meet up.

    I just can't believe the possible idea that they were buying drugs, just because they are intelligent individuals with no indication of delinquent tendencies (based only on what I've read online)... though I'm sure we all know an honour student who has tried drugs.

    It could have been a hate crime, jmo. Also, there seems to be so much hatred based on the amount of bullets that were fired. I can also see how "newbie" murderers might fire more bullets to make sure no witnesses survive.

    So sad.
     
  6. Cryptic

    Cryptic Well-Known Member

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    I agree that it does not look like robbery and the high number of shots suggests a personal motive.

    It is possible that it was a hate crime, but one of the victims is slavic, and thus does not "look" moslem. Of course, there is no moslem or non moslem "look", but many hate motivated people presume there is. They then target people who appear to be from moslem ethnic groups, or conversely, Jihadis targeting people who don't have a moslem "look".

    All, in all, the slavic victim seems to reduce the possibility of a hate crime. Other personal motives that could lead to over kill violence could include retaliation for personal or family issues, an insult, a romantic rivalry etc. It is also possible that only one victim was the target and the other was killed because he was there and was presumed to be "backing" the victim.

    Though neither of the victims appears to have been from an economic background where personal vengeance motives are common, both victims may have come from an honor culture background. Not only do a certain number of moslems come from such cultures, but eastern Europeans, at least the ones I have met (Poles, Croats, Serbs), can be pretty "olde school" about respect / disrespect issues.
     
  7. kchoney

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    Looks like LE thinks at least one of the victims knew the shooters. 30 shell casings found. They also believe someone at the HS knows something. (I used to live in Montgomery County, still live close by and work in DC, so this has been all over local news...)



    http://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2017/06/14262546/
     
  8. Falcon500

    Falcon500 Verified Law Enforcement Detective/L.E. Procedures

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    Arrests made in this case. Information to follow later.
     
  9. 0101ABA

    0101ABA Former Member

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    Media Advisory: Chief Manger and Major Crimes Division Detectives Announce Arrests for the June 5 Double Homicide of Shadi Adi Najjar and Artem S. Ziberov

    Posted on 06/17/2017

    WHAT:

    Press Conference to announce the arrests of the persons developed as responsible for the double homicide of the two Northwest High School students, 17-year-old Shadi Adi Najjar and 18-year-old Artem S. Ziberov that occurred on June 5 in Montgomery Village.

    WHEN:

    Tonight, Saturday, June 17 at 10:30
    No further details of these arrests can be confirmed prior to the press conference.

    Members of the Media are asked to arrive early enough to allow time for the security check-in process and escort to lower level.

    WHERE:

    Montgomery County Public Safety Headquarters (Lower Level)
    100 Edison Park Drive
    Gaithersburg, Maryland 20878


    SPEAKERS:

    Montgomery County Chief of Police J. Thomas Manger
    Director of the Major Crimes Division Captain Darren Francke

    http://www.mymcpnews.com/2017/06/17...cide-of-shadi-adi-najjar-and-artem-s-ziberov/

     
  10. Spellbound

    Spellbound falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus

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    Thank you, Falcon and KayElJay!

    I am happy this happened so quickly.
     
  11. 0101ABA

    0101ABA Former Member

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...28ba60fbb98_story.html?utm_term=.639e0f98b29b
     
  12. Spellbound

    Spellbound falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus

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  13. Spellbound

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...28ba60fbb98_story.html?utm_term=.8763e82eb5b0

    Court records identified the suspects as Jose Canales-Yanez, 25; Edgar Garcia-Gaona, 24; and his brother Roger Garcia, 19, all of Montgomery County.


    It wasn&#8217;t clear whether he was aware of what police described as a previous soured drug buy involving Najjar and a girlfriend of one of the attackers that appears to have festered as resentment for months before become brutal retaliation in June.

    Behind the scenes, detectives had spent two weeks discovering another dimension to Najjar, in which he sold and smoked marijuana and had purportedly stolen drugs from a female dealer late last year, the arrest documents show.

    Garcia-Gaona had been involved in a shooting on Feb. 10 in the community of Montgomery Village, not far from the scene of the slayings.

    [Garcia-Gaona was friends with Canales-Yanez, Canales-Yanez had a girlfriend, who had tried to sell drugs to Najjar six months ago.]


     
  14. Spellbound

    Spellbound falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus

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    From press conference, http://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2...de-montgomery-village-fatal-shooting-2-teens/


    Najja's last text to a girl said he was going to sell graduation ticket to Roger Garcia.

    Najjar possibly involved in theft of drugs in December (passenger in blue Honda Covic grabbed a girl's iPad and dragged her 50 ft.). Girl was girlfriend of Yannez (now his wife). [until I re-listen, this may be two separate incidents, I may have got confused here]

    Murders were retaliation for the previous theft. unknown if Ziborov was just in the wrong place or an intended target

    Believe there are additional sources who have info but have not yet come forward

    Yannez is 25 yr old, Edgar Garcia-Gaona age 24, Roger Garcia age 19.
    All are charged with 2 counts 1st degree murder and 2 counts of conspiracy to commit murder.

    Najjar's phone was taken during the commission of murders, phone has not been recovered. the graduation ticket buy was probably a ruse to get Najjar to the scene.

    Unknown what kind of drugs or how many were "stolen".

    Garcia-Gaona has had two other cases where he exchanged gunfire with other individuals.

    Najjar was shot 4 times. Ziborov shot 10 times , 30 casing rounds were found at the scene.
     
  15. cnmccarthy

    cnmccarthy Well-Known Member

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    But why shoot ziborov 10 times? Seems the amount of shots should be reversed with what we've just found out?


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  16. everybodhi

    everybodhi Well-Known Member

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    There's a lot going on here.
    Did a witness say it was about stealing an ipad because they didn't want to mention drugs? Or, were drugs and an iPad stolen?

    "During the investigation it was learned from a friend of Najjar&#8217;s that Najjar had committed a drug-related robbery in December of 2016 or January of 2017, where it was rumored that he had stolen drugs from a female during a drug transaction.
    It was also learned from the same friend that just prior to this death, Najjar told the friend that he was planning to sell a graduation ticket to an individual named Roger Garcia. That was the last communication Najjar had prior to his death. It occurred at approximately 10:15 p.m."

    http://www.mymcpnews.com/2017/06/18...cide-of-shadi-adi-najjar-and-artem-s-ziberov/
     
  17. pukasonqo2

    pukasonqo2 Active Member

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    i am assuming they didn't want any possible witness that might ID them and just opened fire
    seriously, something has to be done about guns in the usa (i am in oz where gun laws are though and still, we get gang shootings occasionally)
    so many promises now unfulfilled


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  18. Spellbound

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    Or ..... did the "woman" (victim of robbery) lie to her boyfriend that he stole drugs and ipad from her? Just maybe that never happened, but she made it all up ...... just speculating.

    at this point, the stolen drugs is apparently just a "rumor"
     
  19. everybodhi

    everybodhi Well-Known Member

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    The witness is the wife of one of the killers so...
    Anyway you look at it, stealing some pot or an IPad does not justify murder.
    An Ipad has identification numbers that can't be erased, calling the cops, reporting the theft and giving the names, since she knew them, would have gotten her IPad back and resulted in charges for theft and assault, she must have been bruised up being dragged from a car 50 feet by her hair, as she claimed.
     
  20. bluesneakers

    bluesneakers not today satan

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    3 Suspects In Death Of 2 Montgomery Co. Students Appear In Court

    Three Men Held Without Bond in Northwest High School Murders

    Next hearing is schedule for July 14th.
     

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