MD MD - Woodstock, LIVING WhtFem UP11923, 35-60, found in a field, Jul'71

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  1. kat913

    kat913 Well-Known Member

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    Any updates??
     


  2. Bit of hope

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    Nothing....
     
  3. kat913

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    So sad to be just forgotten...
     
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  5. Bit of hope

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    Sorry for asking this, but what is a half slip? In her real picture (it looks like she is gone to the other site) she seems to have a (some kind of) mole on her left cheek.
     
  6. SweetCaroline

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    Bit of Hope, this is a half slip. What ladies used to wear under a skirt.



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  7. Bit of hope

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    Thank you so much! Interesting...who would wear that....Me and my girlfriends don't wear them for ages (I'm born in 1963)
     
  8. SweetCaroline

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    I grew up in the '80s and was forced to wear one to church. Maybe just a Southern thing though?
     
  9. Bit of hope

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    Thank you so much.....1971 USA was this a common thing to wear back then? Or certain type of women? I think a "good" girl would wear them (just an assumption) Maybe she was very ill (cancer comes to mind) but also she has a "junky" look (sorry for this)
     
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    Totally ok I guess but I was born in 1963 in Europe....never ever had this kind of clothing....only when I grew older and wearing a "look through" skirt or dress...This kind of under gown I associate with sexy but neat...
     
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    Not so much a certain type of women as a certain level of dressiness or formality. I would have worn one for church or an office job, not for everyday. And also for certain materials that tended to "ride up" in back.

    And mostly under slim "pencil" skirts.

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  12. MelmothTheLost

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    Agreed. Wearing a slim-fitting skirt over tights or stockings often meant the skirt riding up a bit. The slip, being a sheer fabric, decreased that friction and helped the skirt hang properly.
     
  13. kat913

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    Nope...I still have mine plus the full ones LOL!! Born in 60's wore it with any skirt. Actually my 11th birthday my boy "friend" bought me one!!
     
  14. SurrealisticSlumbers

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    I believe she had been originally wearing a dress, or a skirt paired with some kind of blouse, before these were removed from her body by another individual. Remember, elderly folks can look disheveled sometimes, particularly those who are experiencing neglect or some type of abuse. The fact that she was found half-naked from the waist up makes me believe she was out of it - disoriented, hurt by someone, dumped there - not necessarily an addict.
     
  15. Bit of hope

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    Not that it probably matters a lot, but the Doe site says jewelry unknown, Namus says none, but in the reconstruction she is wearing earrings.
     
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    Every detail matters. Thanks for picking up on that. This tidbit demonstrates that police work back then may have been shoddy and I frankly doubt the coroner cared a lot, given the circumstances. Which is sad, but, don't get me started.
     
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    Bumping....
     
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    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/7259/0/

    I think the woman looks middle aged, but so emaciated you really can't tell, so
    I did a quick search on namus for Maryland just to see if anyone similar maybe popped up. I almost didn't even click on it because of the gap in years when Betty went missing and this woman was found. It makes sense maybe though reading about the circumstances of Betty's disappearance. She has a lot of images on her file, and it's really hard to tell what she'd look like at that weight, but I think the uid and the older woman (Bettys mother?) In the photos share a resemblance. She had the scar, dentures, hazel eyes, the heights off but everything else looks really close. If anyone wants to submit her, please go ahead. I'm still a bit unclear on how to do that, and this is the only second I'll have today where I'm not driving.
     
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  19. Bit of hope

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    Betty had a tattoo "jeff" on her forearm so I don't think it's a match. She could have lasered it away but I'm not sure how common that was those days.
     
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    I saw that too, it would be an incredible longshot, but the things that do match have me on the fence. I didn't see the tattoo on Betty's photos, so I'm not sure of the size or quality of it.
    I had a few friends in high school that thought they were clever making a tattoo gun with a pen and sewing needle, they gave themselves ridiculous tattoos that were gone or faded beyond recognition in a few years. One of them scratched her super-neato "marilyn manson" tattoo off with a safety pin (my friend *might* have been an idiot🤔 ) when her mom found out.
    I wonder if "Jeff" was the guy Betty took off to Maryland with. I got a brief reprieve from driving all day, so I can go ahead and submit her later on. With dentals and dna Betty should, if nothing else, be an easy rule-out.
     

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