I saw the survey on WS and majority agrees. I am probably more with the autopsy of the strangulation first then the skull injury which implies an adult. Based on several deep interpretations of the random note that are too coincidental I am more in the PR as a child sacrifice and JR involved. Sounds just awful.
The recent reenactment placed it on BR which I can understand until you see the autopsy shows no blood in the cranial space. JBR appeared closed to death or deceased due lack of oxygen then hit causing the awful fracture. I am convinced PR was in full psychosis and JR wasn't. I think BR was clearly a victim of abuse as JBR and PR. I am not sure why the possibility of chem induced psychosis was never brought up.
I don't see any explanation from outside the house such as a total stranger. I could completely believe that this family was completely stressed prior to JBR's death. PR had to be told her remission was temporary. I had read her cancer had spread to her ribcage. She was a young woman at diagnosis. I think her psychosis is the only thing that can explain this. I think this is why the staging with the tea and pineapple matched her favorite book.
Absolutely unthinkable. The police tried to get the Ramsey's to help and held the release after autopsy. This would make sense so not to bury a person and not have complete statements and face exhumation.
I understand too, having witnessed it. When she was finished with her first round of chemo. They did a hysterectomy, but left her ovaries because she was only 35. For a few years she was good, sweet and like herself. About year 5 when the cancer "came back" she started with the madness. It was pure madness too. She was living in Florida and basically cut off contact with everyone till she just showed up one day. She was unrecognizable. saddest tragedy ever.
I have thought on PR for along time as one suffering from chemo and potential for these side effects. I am sorry about your friend. I am not sure why this wasn't investigated. Apparently, JR was moved closer to her mom. I am not sure it is wise for a child to experience this.
I am so sorry for your loss. I work investigating drugs before they become approved. I am in my twenty-nineth year. I agree cancer and the stress of the battle is absolutely awful and the type of cancer impacts in so many ways. This family, imo, was stressed to the maximum as well as this being stage four. Ultimately, she would legally know right from wrong. Patsy's travel alone to receive treatment had to add to her stress. Ultimately, her treatment gave her extra years. There are cases of psychosis-related chemotherapy. There are sleuths that have analyzed this case to novels Patsy was well-versed in and this case parallels with those novels. Whatever happened was just highly psychotic. This gets brushed over. Oddly, I think the evidence is sometimes what we do not concentrate on such as the ability to be on national T.V. with an unemotional/ highly controlled father and a mother that should have just been grieving. It takes years often to even have the ability to discuss loss let alone this horror. Patsy has her moments but throughout she was very controlled during interviews both televised or legal interviews. I just imagine, this would just be devastating beyond comprehension. If she did not have PTSD already; you would have seeing your child brought and placed under a Christmas tree, This just made me ask if something such as her battle with cancer or treatment contributed??? It was clear she understood stage four ovarian cancer that had already spread into her ribs (sorry for being graphic). The psychosis should have been discussed/investigated somewhere versus bedwetting. Whatever and whomever was psychotic.
Between death of their other child, PR's cancer and extensive treatments out of state, a traveling husband, all the kids' activities, and a reported profection in certain areas; they were stressed. The hormones are sometimes cancer specific. I could never tolerate any hormones either in my twenties or now. I read the other link related to the Miss Brodie novel and I almost fail over. There is also a theory on child sacrifice that had religious overtones that could be related to psychosis. All of the options are scary. I am reading the Steve Thomas and James Kolar books now. Interesting to read them now.
It was odd how this strange madness hit so fast. We lived together. I witnessed it all. It hit fast and severely. It did not come on gradually. It was as if one night everything was fine and by morning complete madness had taken over her brain. Extreme paranoia, delusional thinking, preoccupation with good and evil, this all occurred before her diagnosis of ovarian cancer. What further confused me is the speed that she seemed to go in and out of psychosis. I say psychosis, but I truly don't know what it was. One moment she could be absolutely psychotic, but seem completely rational the next. It's really a conundrum. Honestly, I did not know what was going on for the longest time. It's just all so very confusing. She was suspicious of everyone and everything. Other than work, our connection to the world became virtually non existent. The rare times that I witnessed her interact with others, she seemed fairly normal. She went to work every day. I know it sound crazy and it was. It was crazy and isolating. It started to wear me down, mentally, and eventually I think I may have joined the madness in some sort of strange folie à deux. It was a nightmare that ended badly.
Yeah, there is no way someone remained in the house. So, I rewatched some old dispositions and interviews. On one hand, you get some denials that are professionally stated but one thing you are looking for is innocence so you make a hard accusation as law enforcement. I can assure you if I had just lost my child and was innocent, LE would know by my reaction in being fasely accused. All I know is serious psychosis had to be involved. JR is the only one I know that cheated on his wife and was reported to be playing the field (his friend used a different word). The similarities in the novels would only be known by a serious fan. The similarities are just too great.
This sounds so frightening. My mom developed dementia and went through hallucinations and paranoia. She thought people were trying to come in. It sounds so real like people were actually there until I stayed over and she started and no one was there. Once, you get your first confirmation it is unreal. It is so frightening for them. Patients do develop dementia from chemotherapy as well.
My mom went through one violent episode aimed at my stepfather. We had here hospitalized then until we had all the medications under control.
It is amazing what hormones do. I have never been able to tolerate them. Some sleuths have mentioned Dissociative Identity Disorder. I can believe this as well. Did you read about the parallels in the Miss Brodie novels? There is pineapple and tea, missplelling of possession, a foreign terrorist group, etc. There are several books with parallels to the crime. One thing that is really weird is to have two people F.W. and Santa to have issues of disappearance with their young daughters. F.W.'s daughter was just hiding. I do not like coincidences. The other big issue was sending B.R. to a neighbor instead of wanting police protection.
