Meredith Kercher murdered-Amanda Knox Conviction Overturned #22

Discussion in 'Amanda Knox' started by Salem, Oct 3, 2011.

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  1. Salem

    Salem Former Member

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  3. gitana1

    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    (I was posting when the last thread closed):
    I will post the link to the channel: somealibis's Channel - YouTube

    It is a beautiful town, by the way. And now I'm off this thread topic. I'm very satisfied and happy that Knox and Sollecito have been set free and acquitted. But I am a bit bothered that some seem to be shouting down those with differing opinions in a not so polite manner (IMO).

    I probably shouldn't talk because I know I have not been perfect in the past but I try because I really value fairness.
     
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  5. dog.gone.cute

    dog.gone.cute Kyron Horman - Missing Since 6-4-10

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    :floorlaugh: The previous thread got "closed" while I was still writing a response to a post ... and it was not the first time that happened to me ...

    :innocent: I thought it was closed down for good because of ... well, you know what I mean ... LOL ... and I see now a new one has been opened ...

    So I was "lucky" to catch it and save in time ... and posting it here so I hope this works :




    BBM: Maybe no one came forward because they felt it would have "fallen on deaf ears" because of the pro-Amanda stance here in the U.S.?

    Maybe no one came forward because they did not want to "go against the general consensus" here in the U.S. that AK was "not guilty" ?

    Maybe no one wanted to come forward because this person would have automatically been "accused" and "scrutinized" of wanting to have their "15 minutes of fame" ?

    I think it would be interesting to see if there is someone out there that does have a "differing" opinion than what we have been "told".

    And to answer the question as to when do you take a step and revisit one's perception ... IMO, it is the minute you see it, as well as feel it !

    It's very hard to explain but it's like a "bell goes off in your head" and you remember something -- something that was said, or a person's actions, that you may have just "ignored" at the time or did not give it a lot of significance.

    It can kind of hit like a "ton of bricks" or "like a feather" ... and it is going to vary from person to person and situation to situation ... and you think back on it ... This is not the best answer but it's like all of a sudden, you just realize "somethin's not right" ... it's "hinky stinky" ...

    MOO ...
     
  6. dog.gone.cute

    dog.gone.cute Kyron Horman - Missing Since 6-4-10

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    Thank You ...

    And yes, Perugia is a beautiful town ... never been there but from what I have seen on tv and in pictures, it is nice !

    As always gitana1, I do appreciate your opinions as well as legal input ... :innocent: even if we do not always agree ... lol :innocent:

    But ... we can always "agree to disagree" ...

    MOO ... :seeya:
     
  7. Steft50

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    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Defendants or not, it's not imo ok to lie under oath in a court room, and that standard has to be held to an even higher standard by those testifying for the prosecution, most especially the prosecutor. I barely understand the need for LE to lie during investigations, but I don't approve of them, nor condon them most especially from LE, prosecutors, crime scene investigators and the like. No, I don't condon the lies Amanda told, even if I can certainly understand how and why she did, I don't condon it. What I do expect is the same level of honesty you want from Amanda to be held to those involved in the prosecution and the civil lawyers, who also lied.

    Amanda has been convicted for the lies concerning her boss that she made in her statement to the ILE. You can call her what you want although you may want to verify that it's a felony class crime before you call her a felon. I don't think it is here in the US, I don't know about Italy.

    I call the prosecutor a convicted criminal because that is what he is and when reviewing this case completely that shouldn't be forgotten. What many of us have seen in this case is eerily similar to what he's been convicted of in another case that has been mentioned here several times. And no, I hold no respect for him, he's shown me no reason to offer him any.
     
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    I haven't followed this case much here, but I just wanted to chime in and say I'm glad she'll be coming home.
     
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    I think it's worth noting the paragraph before that:

     
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    Weird...there was just a Breaking News headline (the ones you can't click on for article yet) that the Prosecution intends to appeal the overturning of the verdict but now it's gone. Maybe it wasn't confirmed?
     
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    Thought this was noteworthy:

     
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    That is entirely true. This appeals trial is only the second of three phases that automatically happen. The prosecution has planned since at least last week to appeal at the supreme court level. If they find any rules were broken there could be a whole new trial. But I doubt Amanda will be returning to Italy for that, and I doubt the SC would fine any good reason to.
     
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    Or maybe there were no red flags because they didn't exist. Just like maybe they weren't on hard drugs that night because there is no evidence of that either. <modsnip>
     
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    Is that how the Italian SC works, Malkmus? Like our appellate courts, that deal almost exclusively with trial error rather than actual evidence?
     
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    darnudes Inactive

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    Ah well, if you're quoting Michelli please also note the following:

    Judge Paolo Micheli, releasing a report on his reasons for sentencing Rudy Guede, 22, to 30 years in prison in October for his part in the murder, said the killing was “a group crime”. Guede had not himself cut Ms Kercher’s throat. But there was “cast iron proof” that he had taken part in the murder, even if he did not strike the “mortal blow”.

    Judge Micheli said he accepted that there was “complicity” between the assailants, but said some aspects of the prosecution reconstruction were “fantasy”.

    Judge Micheli said Guede was “a liar” and there were “no extenuating circumstances”. “Even someone who wanted to believe him would find it impossible,” the judge wrote. He added: “It is credible that Guede entered the house because he was let into it by someone else, and that someone could only be Amanda Knox.”


    Definitely food for thought.
     
  17. Nova

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    There is no evidence that the killing of Meredith Kercher was "a group crime." What little evidence there was--DNA on a knife and a bra clasp--has been discredited. I suspect Micheli has figured that out by now.
     
  18. Smelly Squirrel

    Smelly Squirrel Has never crawled into a Pontiac Sunfire

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    It's ludicrous that the court thinks they can find someone innocent. Barring a rock solid alibi, of which there is none, there's no way they can claim that.

    The verdict is also contradictory. On the one hand Knox is innocent of the murder, but on the other she's guilty of defaming Lumumba, also meaning there was no coercion in the interrogation. I'd like them to explain why she would defame Lumumba if she was innocent.
     
  19. ~n/t~

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    I hope they reconsider and move on. I'm sure the people of Perugia would want nothing more than to return to normal life and make this horrific case that has tainted their town forever fade away in the history books. Thousands of foreign students attend their universities which, imo would be a huge error on the government to continue pursuing this case. Time to try to restore the wonderful reputation it once had so students and tourists will feel safe again.

    Baci for everyone!
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    From what I've seen and read, those who think she's innocent believe she did it out of fear. Do I believe it? No way.
     
  21. alwayslooking

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    This has been the most passionate thread I have ever seen at WS, while I disagree with many of you, I respect your opinion! My fear is that just because someone is American, if the crime is in another country, the majority will fight for them, not the victim! This is all about the victim! By the way good morning WS friends!
     
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