Mexico MEXICO - Annette Mizener, 37, 4 Dec 2004 - Missing on cruise

Wow, Michael G, you have provided us with much more info that is available via the WWW or news !!
Hearing about the man harassing her, the blood, the overturned glass, scattered papers,covered camera, beads from her purse and the note- all really confirm some type of foul play.

I cant believe the employees complained about a search !! and told the daughter that her mother had commited suicide !! Puh-lease !! How uncaring! This poor girl was/is obviously worried, upset, scare, etc... and they make an unfounded statement such as that !

You provided us much insight - thank you. I am sorry that you had such a traumatic experience.

Bless you for coming forward and talking to the FBI - going above the cruise line as you felt they were not following up correctly.
 
MichaelG, thank you for the information. It is very interesting and hopefully will give some sort of clue or closure for Annette's family and friends.

I agree with the problems with security. I worked at a theme park for many years and the security was mostly a bunch of jerks that were more bothered with "having to do work" and were mostly unhelpful (there were a few there that did their job and did a great job) . It is so sad that there are people like that out there in positions like that.:snooty:
 
MichaelG--
Bless you for getting involved! I am sorry for this traumatic experience you had and for the awful way you were treated. What a sad situation.
Karen
 
I was with a group of about 200 from the Las Vegas Hilton that included Annette Mizener, her daughter and parents. I was stunned to read the postings by a fellow passenger, MichaelG. What he writes has a ring of truth. The Carnival authorities seemed more interested in keeping their schedule than with solving a possible crime. Our group traveled in four buses from Las Vegas to Long Beach, dined together and gambled together in the casino. The FBI, which boarded the ship in Long Beach, never asked our group (which was gathered together for some time waiting for debarkation) any questions. Did anyone see her that night? At dinner, at the casino or when she did her karaoke performance? Did anyone see someone harassing her? The rumors were rampant the next morning but all had the same thread-her purse was found damaged and the surveillance camera had been covered. I feel very bad for her and her family. I have done a little research and found a gaping hole in area of protection under the law when on the high seas.
 
gadfly said:
I was with a group of about 200 from the Las Vegas Hilton that included Annette Mizener, her daughter and parents. I was stunned to read the postings by a fellow passenger, MichaelG. What he writes has a ring of truth. The Carnival authorities seemed more interested in keeping their schedule than with solving a possible crime. Our group traveled in four buses from Las Vegas to Long Beach, dined together and gambled together in the casino. The FBI, which boarded the ship in Long Beach, never asked our group (which was gathered together for some time waiting for debarkation) any questions. Did anyone see her that night? At dinner, at the casino or when she did her karaoke performance? Did anyone see someone harassing her? The rumors were rampant the next morning but all had the same thread-her purse was found damaged and the surveillance camera had been covered. I feel very bad for her and her family. I have done a little research and found a gaping hole in area of protection under the law when on the high seas.

gadfly, please contact me at MissingProfiles@yahoo.com should you wish to reach the persons investigating Annette's disappearance.
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Thank you for caring about Annette and her family.

With love and HOPE, Lanie
 
wow. I wish i could say i was surprised at how badly this was handled.

A good reminder - don't just trust people in authority to do everything needed. There is incompetence everywhere. Don't be afraid to stick up for yourself and your family and push to make sure things are being handled right. Ask questions, take notes, ask more questions. If people feel like something is being documented then they will be more likely to follow "procedure"

This goes for all kinds of situations - get a second opinion for any major decision/health issue/repair. ask lots of questions. Be as informed as you can.

Not that long ago I would have just trusted that everything was being done "right" now I feel like you hvae to assume it may not be. People are often afraid to question people in certain types of authority positions (security, police, doctors, lawyers,...)

Don't be afraid! It's your right to ask questions. If someone acts like its unreasonable to question them or gets belligerent then it probably means you REALLY need to be asking them! Just stay calm, composed, polite, but don't back down.
 
Passenger says he found missing woman’s purse,
saw tampered camera
FBI continues investigation into woman’s disappearance from ship

By KOLLIN KOSMICKI - GM Today Staff
January 6, 2005

WAUKESHA - A man aboard the cruise ship from which Annette Mizener disappeared a month ago says he’s the one who found an array of her belongings on a deck, and that he witnessed a security camera covered with paper near those items.

Michael Gaither, of Milipitas, Calif., said he was surprised the FBI never contacted or interviewed him because he was one of three people who knew firsthand where the items were found. He said he also sent the FBI and Carnival Cruise Lines a detailed account of his observations, along with times.

"I consider myself sort of, kind of, a suspect," Gaither said sarcastically in a phone interview.

Mizener, 37, of Waukesha, went missing from the Carnival Pride cruise ship traveling back to Long Beach, Calif., from its voyage to Mexico. A Carnival spokeswoman has said crew workers found Mizener’s purse on a deck that night. A search for Mizener on the ship and in surrounding waters failed to locate a body.

The FBI is still investigating Mizener’s disappearance and an agency spokeswoman declined to comment on Gaither’s observations.

Gaither, who provided documentation to The Freeman confirming he was a ship passenger, said he discovered Mizener’s purse when he went on the deck to smoke a cigarette.

He said he noticed it at about the same time as two nearby security personnel, who then came out and searched it to identify the owner.

He left the area of the ship and returned about 15 minutes later, he said. When he returned, he said, the area had not been taped off.

The first thing he noticed was a security camera covered with a piece of paper, what he described as a brochure that was possibly wet and "draped" over the camera.

"A lot of people have been saying it’s a rumor," Gaither said about the security camera reportedly being covered. "It’s not a rumor. I saw it myself."

He said he also noticed nearby an emergency strobe light out of place on a buoy ring, some sort of note or piece of paper tucked onto the ring, an overturned glass and a pen, he said.

He informed security and left the area, he said, only to return again about 15 minutes later. Mizener’s 17-year-old daughter, Danielle, was at the scene "looking around" when he came back, he said.

At that point another teenage boy helping them search the area climbed a ladder and observed beads from the purse that were "spread all over the ground where the bag was first found."

Gaither said he was frustrated it took security several hours to rope off that area and he estimated that a couple hundred people had walked through the vicinity after the discovery of the purse.

A Carnival spokeswoman handling media inquiries about the disappearance, Jennifer de La Cruz, didn’t return phone calls Wednesday and this morning.

Mizener’s family members, including her husband John, have not commented for weeks on the disappearance.

"I guess John doesn’t want to get involved every day with somebody saying this or that," said the family’s spokesman, the Rev. Rick Kielley. "We’re trying to give him some time to face the facts."

http://www.gmtoday.com/news/local_stories/2005/January_05/01062005_01.asp
 
I am a member of www.cruisecritic.com and we also have a thread on the tragic death of Annette Mizner.

I received this email from the Pastor of the church Annette Mizener attended
______________________________________________________________

Dear Fred,

Nothing really has changed. Channel 4 in Milwaukee had John and I on
Thursday the 27th of January. We aren't going to let this fade away without
answers. We are praying and seeking the truth, even if it's not to our
liking. We hope that by hiring an attorney the investigation will yield the
truth. The preliminary investigation should be completed by the end of
February and then we can proceed legally. Thanks for your prayers and
concerns - Never give up!

Your friend,
Pastor Rick Kielley

________________________________________________________________
 
derf5585 said:
I am a member of www.cruisecritic.com and we also have a thread on the tragic death of Annette Mizner.

I received this email from the Pastor of the church Annette Mizener attended
______________________________________________________________

Dear Fred,

Nothing really has changed. Channel 4 in Milwaukee had John and I on
Thursday the 27th of January. We aren't going to let this fade away without
answers. We are praying and seeking the truth, even if it's not to our
liking. We hope that by hiring an attorney the investigation will yield the
truth. The preliminary investigation should be completed by the end of
February and then we can proceed legally. Thanks for your prayers and
concerns - Never give up!

Your friend,
Pastor Rick Kielley

________________________________________________________________
Thank you derf and welcome to WS....thanks for the link, I'll check it out. I hope and pray for the truth also...
 
The link that Derf mentioned also provides a link to the 1998 Amy Bradley case, another bizarre disappearance.

I, too, wonder about background checks of cruise line workers. Rapists often go after who is available at the moment their urge strikes. Both of these women may have been alone in the wrong place at the wrong time.
 
There house has been pretty quiet too. I haven't seen anyone out. Although there have been a couple times where I have seen cars there from a different state, but that could be family members. The family is hanging pretty low key.

I still pray for them everynight. No answers would drive me crazy!!!!! :confused:
 
I went on a Carnival Cruise a year ago and their security couldn't even speak english.

There was a guy in the room next to us who was drunk one night and was yelling and fighting with his wife. We called security who went to their door and put their finger to their mouth and said, "Shhhh". Then left. Numerous other people called security and so they had to come back and all they did was hold a tape recorder to the door to record their noise.

Then the man started beating on his wife. That's when my husband stepped in. He called security, then kicked the neighbour's door open and put the guy on the ground and told him that if he heard him yelling again or touching his wife again that he'd have to answer to him.

The guy was quiet the rest of the trip. Security didn't do a THING! Security couldn't even speak English, they were tiny little guys who couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag.

I will NEVER go on another Carnival Cruise again!
 
Fights, robberies, men harassing women who appear to be on their own- it happens all the time on Carnival cruises, and the staff just looks the other way. I would never go on a Carnival cruise. They have the worst reputation in the business.
 
Annette's family was on the Montel show today. It was the first time I had heard of the case. I am glad they are getting some publicity for her.
 

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