Mexico - Elisabeth Mandala, 18, beaten to death, Nuevo Leon, 27 April 2010

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  1. tk71texas

    tk71texas wth is wrong with people today

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    http://www.khou.com/news/local/Fort-Bend-ISD-senior-dies-in-Mexico--92786044.html


    not much info on this yet but i can certainly say i would never let my kid anywhere near mexico these days
     
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  3. lizzybeth

    lizzybeth Active Member

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    I wouldn't go near Mexico either. What a strange story. One of the men killed along with her was 38 and the other's age was unknown. I wonder if she even knew these men?
     
  4. Filly

    Filly KICKING AND SHINING

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    Heck no I wouldn't be anywhere near Mexico even if you paid me. I wouldn't want my mother, grandmom, Uncle or anyone else there right now. However, in all fairness the article states she went without her parents permission. There'd been a time I'd have said "Where are these parents. Where do they think the kid was?" Then I had a kid turned 17 and found out real quick they'll try and get away with anything.

    It's sad. This is a young girl. An entire life ahead of her. Very shifty though she was in the company of two adult men.

    Prayers for this little girl. No young person should be murdered for making a mistake.
     
  5. Linda7NJ

    Linda7NJ New Member

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    Seems to me she was there looking for trouble, seems like she found it.

    I LOVE Mexico!

    There are just some areas ya need to stay out of....just like here in the USA.
     
  6. jnTexas

    jnTexas Can't wait for softball and baseball to start :-)

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    http://www.click2houston.com/news/23453989/detail.html

    what a beautiful young lady.
     
  7. jnTexas

    jnTexas Can't wait for softball and baseball to start :-)

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    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6989743.html

    more at the link.
     
  8. jnTexas

    jnTexas Can't wait for softball and baseball to start :-)

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    http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/news/local/100504-sugarland-high-school-teen-killed-in-mexico

    this is a strange case...
     
  9. Salem

    Salem Former Member

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    Very strange case. Hinky meter over the top here.

    I'm not sure I believe any of this story :(

    She left on Tues and was not reported missing until Saturday. Why? Why not report her when you see her facebook saying "I'm in Mexico"?

    Do 17 year old girls really want to be coyotes?

    Salem
     
  10. jjenny

    jjenny Well-Known Member

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    I am going to take a wild guess that her parents didn't have a good handle on what she was up to, or couldn't control her behavior. For instance, the article above says her mother just learned her daughter was an "exotic dancer." Maybe she didn't live with her parents, or it wasn't unsual for her to not come home for several days and that's why they did not report her missing. By the way, her age is 18, which means legally she is an adult.
     
  11. Salem

    Salem Former Member

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    I think my mind is going in the direction that the parents knew a whole lot more than they are saying...... and that throwing the 'exotic dancer' out is a bit of a red herring to make everyone think this was a wayward teen.

    I don't know?

    Salem
     
  12. Kat

    Kat Kind words do not cost much

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    I'm with you Salem. How many young american girls grow up and say "I want to be a coyote".

    That one stopped me in my tracks because it doesn't pass the smell test IMHO.
     
  13. jjenny

    jjenny Well-Known Member

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    She looks very sweet and young in the photo provided with the OP article. Not so much in a photo on what appears to be her facebook page.
    That said, I agree that we clearly don't know the whole story and what was it all about, starting with why she was in Mexico with two much older men.
     
  14. justthinkin

    justthinkin New Member

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    The story sounds plausible if Mandala was bipolar, and experiencing her first bout of mania. Whatever it was, it's tragic.
     
  15. Filly

    Filly KICKING AND SHINING

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    Poor girl would have been in just as much danger as in Camden.:eek:
     
  16. jjenny

    jjenny Well-Known Member

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    I don't follow your reasoning. How would that make this story plausible?
     
  17. laura08

    laura08 New Member

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    Very sad, I think she is latina, and am curious to know if she had ever been in Mexico before, and these men she was with are they friends of her parents where did she meet them. This story has alot missing out of it. Prayers for her family.
     
  18. southcitymom

    southcitymom New Member

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    I agree about Mexico. It's not a dangerous place per se, but certain areas should be avoided of course. That can be said about every country, I imagine.

    My prayers for the family of this girl.
     
  19. Kat

    Kat Kind words do not cost much

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    FWIW, there may be some areas of Mexico that are safe but not many of the border towns. Neuvo Loredo being one of those that one should really not travel to as an American.

    This article is from March of this year but I'm willing to say it's still accurate:

    http://www.wfaa.com/news/crime/Gun-battle-rages-in--86026647.html

    and this one dated a bit later:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/20/AR2010042004961.html

    (I only linked the above articles so that we can get a sense of things there in the town she was found, not all areas of Mexico are combat areas for the cartels, just the borders ones).

    Even if she has a Latino surname she shouldn't have been there. What is odd is that the accident was staged. Usually, these cartel hinchmen will just leave a body lying out in the open so that others are intimidated and terrorized. They are known in the Juarez area (border town in Chihuahua) to remove the head of victim and stage their bodies for public view with the head on their chest or nearby. (If that is who is responsible for these deaths)

    I live about five miles from Juarez as the crow flies. I can see the break in the Franklin mnts where the rio cuts through and that is right at the border ---from my backyard.

    As a civilian I could travel to Mexico (Juarez) but I have chosen not to do so. My Husband (Active duty Military) has been given a directive that he can't travel to Juarez. If the DOD says a man that has been trained in combat for 26 yrs can't go because it's too dangerous---my lil' (not so lil' anymore) middle aged behind is staying put right here! LOL

    Seriously, if I had to guess at this moment in time what she was doing there. I would have to guess that one or more of the people in the vehicle where the crash was staged was involved with the drug war over there in one way or another. She may have only been in the wrong place at the wrong time. I don't know.

    ETA: As the years go by in this turf war, more and more innocents are being killed to terrorize the general population. Many of those killed these days are in no way allied with these cartels. JMHO.
     
  20. Linda7NJ

    Linda7NJ New Member

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    Probably the same way so many young people end up being crack heads! It sounded like fun at the time!
     
  21. Texas Mist

    Texas Mist Retired WS Staff

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    Unfortunately, the TX/Mexico border towns have become very dangerous because of the drug cartel wars.....I used to go to Nuevo Laredo & Ciudad Acuña several times a year -- but that was years ago.

    In fact, a family member was going to cross over to Nuevo Laredo just a couple years ago & had to turn back because a gun-fight (automatic weapons at that) broke out....he hasn't been back either.

    I love Mexico, too, but it's getting dangerous - even in the more upscale tourist areas like Acapulco (google "violence Acapulco mexico")...I miss my shopping trips with the girls -- but it's just not worth the risk, IMO....such a shame because shopping in Mexico is like a Texas tradition.
     

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