Mexico Mexico - Jenny Chen, 26, Oaxaca, 11 April 2016 #4

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  1. tlcya

    tlcya Well-Known Member

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    Jenny Chen, 26, went on a backpacking trip through Mexico in March. This trip also included hitchhiking to different cities. Jenny was also a member of the traveling website couchsurfing.com, and used it to find places to stay during her trip.


    Jonathan, her husband, was supposed to meet Jenny in Cancun on April 15th, but she never showed up. The last time friends and family heard from her was April 11th when she was in Oaxaca.


    Help Find Jenny Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/helpfindjenny/?pnref=story


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    http://q13fox.com/2016/04/23/wallingford-man-says-wife-missing-in-mexico/
    http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/woman-missing-on-oaxaca-cancun-trip/


    Her husband is also raising money to hire a private investigator. He speculated that money may be needed for a “ransom,” although he hasn’t heard from anybody. He also fears that his wife may have been sold into human trafficking. http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-...kpacking-trip/


    it was a chance for her to clear her head and figure out what she wants to do with her life. The two met while he was living in China in 2008. They two eventually moved to the U.S.. Chen was granted permanent residency and was working toward becoming a citizen. But she struggled to find work. One last adventure on her own seemed like the perfect way to refocus.


    Reinhard says they kept in close contact through Skype and Facebook as his wife posted photos of her adventures in different cities along the way.


    The two agreed to meet up at the Cancun airport on April 15, but Chen never showed up. The last time family and friends heard from her was 4 days earlier.


    On Friday, he's planning to head back to Mexico to try to retrace his wife's steps.


    He's remains hopeful she will be found, but he fears something horrible may have happened to her.


    She was scheduled to be back in Seattle on July 5.


    http://komonews.com/news/local/seatt...trip-to-mexico


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  3. Greater Than

    Greater Than <b><span style="color:#000099;">WS Senior Moderato

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    Please continue here.
     
  4. webant

    webant New Member

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    from Post #1258 of Thread #3
    I didn't know that! Was it reported in a Chinese publication?

    It was in an English language news report, and I believe it may be quoted somewhere in our thread #2. It will be prior to my letter of April 3rd 2017. It stated that the Chinese Chamber of Commerce in Singapore helped Jenny's family. If I find it I will link or direct to it here.


    I found it, not in Thread #2...


    Post #406 of Thread #3

    "After many investigation, the Mexican police provided encouraging information to prove that in late May Chen Qun Dan still travel in the south of Mexico more. Know the situation, Chen Qun Dan's family was pleased. The search work of the embassy has also been grateful to the President of the Wenzhou Chamber of Commerce in Singapore and the Chinese Embassy, &#8203;&#8203;Ms. Huo Hongmei, for their help."

    It is a Google translation...but likely accurate for the Chamber of Commerce in Singapore.

    [FONT=&quot]I sent my email to the Chinese Chamber of Commerce in Singapore because I felt they would have the highest likelihood of being able to read it. There may well be a better recipient for an email in Chinese.[/FONT]
     
  5. slowpoke

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    You know what's odd, though. I put the site through Bing Translator just to see, and this is how it translated the portion you quoted from Google Translate above:

    "After much investigation, Mexican Police provided encouraging information and prove that Chen is still in southern Mexico in late May to hitchhiking. After learning of the situation, Chen's family feel gratified. Embassy search also Jin Jiachi Wenzhou Chamber of Commerce in Mexico President and Ms Chung Wah Huo Hongmei's help, here to thank them!"
    http://www.microsofttranslator.com/...//mx.china-embassy.org/chn/lsfw1/t1371117.htm

    I think we need southlanecherry to translate the text for us. Calling out to southlanecherry, are you there? We need you! :)
     
  6. GigTu

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    After 3 complete threads of research, opinions, comments, and review - we are still where we started in thread 1. I will say though, that the indepth thought processes and discussions that have persisted for all threads, even with no real new information has been mature, insightful, well thought out, and thought provoking. I personally have not seen so much really intense and valuable discussion with barely anything to go on anywhere else in WS. Granted, I don't stray too far away from MP cases so I may be missing a lot elsewhere, but I appreciate the logical thinking on this case.
     
  7. webant

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    The Google translation reads more coherently than does the Bing, but that doesn’t mean it is correct. It would be great if southlanecherry could make a translation for us.
     
  8. webant

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    Agreed. However this case turns out, and even if it never finds closure, it is a learning experience; maybe to pay off down the road on another case.
     
  9. webant

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    &#20351;&#39302;&#30340;&#25628;&#23547;&#24037;&#20316;&#20063;&#24471;&#21040;&#20102;&#22696;&#35199;&#21733;&#28201;&#24030;&#21830;&#20250;&#37329;&#21152;&#27744;&#20250;&#38271;&#21644;&#20013;&#21326;&#20250;&#39302;&#38669;&#32418;&#26757;&#22899;&#22763;&#30340;&#22823;&#21147;&#21327;&#21161;,&#22312;&#27492;&#21521;&#20182;&#20204;&#34920;&#31034;&#24863;&#35874;!

    This is the sentence in question. I've used a few online translators and gotten a different result from each! Google's has seemed the most coherent.
     
  10. rosesfromangels

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    It says...."The search work of the embassy has also been grateful to the President of the Wenzhou Chamber of Commerce in Singapore and the Chinese Embassy, &#8203;&#8203;Ms. Huo Hongmei, for their help."
     
  11. Lilibet

    Lilibet Watching and Waiting

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    I've been asked to bring over my post from shortly before the door slammed on thread #3...as follows:

    I've been perusing previous threads. I'm working on a Media Thread with links to MSM and SM...I'm tired of digging for stuff. So far, from thread #1 I've got MSM stories and important SM posts from HFJ and Jenny's Weibo. It's labor intensive and probably an exercise in futility, but hey, what else do I have to do! Plenty! But sometimes I'm like a dog with a bone. I'll start the thread and post the thread #1 stuff within a few days. I don't think threads #2 and 3 will have quite as much stuff, so maybe I can get those done soonish too...or maybe not. If anyone has requests or specific suggestions, let me know.

    ANYWAY...on thread #2 I ran across this post of Kaboom's from 7/5/16 that summarizes the whole case up to that point. The time since then has been wash, rinse, repeat. Maybe we can just go with this and skip the Media Thread! :D This illustrates perfectly why our heads are spinning and we have whiplash. The recent cycle of "the suspect has disappeared bad news but Jenny has been sighted good news" is more of the same.

    Thanks, Kaboom! Great post! Still relevant a year later....

    "The good news bad news cycle continues. Remember a month ago when JR said they were just about ready to wrap the case up?

    So to recap what has happened so far:

    Good news: PI found witnesses to which way Jenny was headed.
    Bad news: JR suspects Jenny was picked up human traffickers.
    Good news: JR is offline waiting for some good news.
    Bad news: No action from Chinese or US governments.
    Good news: JR's investigators heading to Oaxaca to continue the search.
    Bad news: JR found out the Oaxaca Police have done nothing.
    Good news: JR heading to Mexico, to nail down the new leads.
    Bad news: Corona won’t cooperate with name of driver.
    Good news: Corona has finally responded, and promised information soon.
    Bad news: JR has no more money to pay to pay the PI. Needs more donations.
    Good news: The private investigator believes they are very close to finding Jenny.
    Bad news: More stall tactics from Corona. JR needs help to turn up the heat on them.
    Good news: Corona is showing some effort. JR hopes we have some positive results soon.
    Bad news: Corona and the Oaxaca police are playing games.
    Good news: Corona is helping with the investigation, and JR is pleased for their assistance.
    Bad news: Corona is not giving JR access to the driver.
    Good news: JR hired the best lawyers.
    Bad news: JR is running out of money. Needs more donations.
    Good news JR’s meeting with Corona was very productive.
    Bad news: Police are stonewalling. Have to move the case to a new prosecutor
    Good news the "Special Elite Task force” is now on the job.
    Bad news: Everything is on hold because of a teacher’s strike.
    Good news: JR has been promised that the case will speed up."

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...3#post12673243

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...axaca-11-April-2016-3&p=13633789#post13633789
     
  12. rosesfromangels

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  13. Lilibet

    Lilibet Watching and Waiting

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    Here's what I got from three sites. No mention of Singapore.

    The search work of Embassy also obtained Wenzhou Chamber of commerce
    President King Chi and vigorous assistance of Chinese Consolidated Benevolent Association Mrs Hugo Hongmei, here expressed gratitude to them

    http://www.systranet.com/translate/

    The search Embassy has been ably assisted by the Mexican president of Wenzhou Chamber of Commerce gold plus pools and Ms. Chung Wah Huo Hongmei, and to thank them here!

    http://www.etranslator.ro/chinese-english-online-translation.php

    The embassy search work also obtained Mexican Wenzhou Chamber of commerce Jin Jiachi the association president and Chinese Consolidated Benevolent Association Ms. Huo's the hungmuy tea vigorously assistance, expresses thanks in this to them!

    http://www.worldlingo.com/products_services/worldlingo_translator.html
     
  14. GigTu

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  15. southlanecherry

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    I read/write Chinese. If needed I can translate for you. However, I do not recall reading about the family getting help from Chamber of Commerce in Singapore. Am I missing something?

    That part of message that you translated in Google have been translated by me and posted in Thread 3 somewhere. I have dug it up and reposted here as follows:

    &#27492;&#22806;&#65292;&#20351;&#39302;&#36824;&#20986;&#36164;&#32856;&#35831;&#20102;&#35199;&#35821;&#32763;&#35793;&#65292;&#38506;&#21516;&#38472;&#26576;&#30340;&#29238;&#27597;&#22312;&#21508;&#22320;&#27963;&#21160;&#12290;&#32463;&#36807;&#22810;&#26041;&#25490;&#26597;&#65292;&#22696;&#35686;&#26041;&#25552;&#20379;&#20102;&#20196;&#20154;&#40723;&#33310;&#30340;&#20449;&#24687;&#65292; &#35777;&#26126;5&#26376;&#19979;&#26092;&#38472;&#26576;&#20173;&#28982;&#22312;&#22696;&#21335;&#37096;&#22810;&#22320;&#25645;&#36710;&#26053;&#34892;&#12290;&#24471;&#30693;&#24773;&#20917;&#21518;&#65292;&#38472;&#26576;&#30340;&#23478;&#20154;&#20493;&#24863;&#27427;&#24944;&#12290;&#20351;&#39302;&#30340;&#25628;&#23547;&#24037;&#20316;&#20063;&#24471;&#21040;&#20102;&#22696;&#35199; &#21733;&#28201;&#24030;&#21830;&#20250;&#37329;&#21152;&#27744;&#20250;&#38271;&#21644;&#20013;&#21326;&#20250;&#39302;&#38669;&#32418;&#26757;&#22899;&#22763;&#30340;&#22823;&#21147;&#21327;&#21161;&#65292;&#22312;&#27492;&#21521;&#20182;&#20204;&#34920;&#31034;&#24863;&#35874;&#65281;

    Translation: In addition, the embassy hired Spanish translators and accompanied Chen's parents to various regions. After conducting multiple investigations, the Mexican Police provided encouraging news, attesting that Chen was still hitchhiking in southern Mexico in late May. After receiving the news, Chen's parents were very happy and relieved. The search was assisted by Chairman Jia Chi Jin of Wenzhou Chamber of Commerce of Mexico and Chairman Hong Mei Huo from MexChina. The embassy would like to express their sincere gratitude towards them.

    Unless you are translating from another article, the organization mentioned was Wenzhou Chamber of Commerce of Mexico. Chinese Camber of Commerce in Singapore is an organization in Singapore. Why would they be involved in a case in Mexico?





     
  16. southlanecherry

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    Okay the problem with google translate is they cannot detect the name of a person. The sequence of the Chinese text is "Mexico Wenzhou Commerce Chamber Jin Jia Chi Chairman"... to an auto translator, this sentence is bound to mess up and come up with weird stuff, because Jin Jia Chi sounds kind of like Singapore in Chinese which is Xin Jia Po.

    I hope this clears things up. Singapore has nothing to do with it, people!

     
  17. GigTu

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    Thank you, southlanecherry. Yes, you did just translate this for us here. Thank you for bringing it to the new thread.

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...axaca-11-April-2016-3&p=13626531#post13626531

    Also....
    I would like to reiterate southlanecherry's reminder that the Chinese embassy did not participate in and does not support the search for Jenny in Mexico.

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...axaca-11-April-2016-3&p=13628366#post13628366
     
  18. KaaBoom

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    That is incorrect per Chinese media reports.

    https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=http://world.people.com.cn/n1/2016/0610/c1002-28424500.html&prev=search
     
  19. GigTu

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    Can you please quote the specific part of the post where southlanecherry said the Chinese embassy did not participate in and does not support the search for Jenny in Mexico. I'm missing it.
     
  21. southlanecherry

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    GigTu, I was pointing out that Singapore is not involved in this case, because a member here wrote a letter to the Chinese Commerce Chamber of Singapore. I believe it was a mistake because the said member used google to translate the Chinese article and the translation was wrong which led him to believe Singapore was involved.

    Chinese embassy, however, is involved in this case, at least their political stance is to support the search of Jenny, they even went far and beyond by taking everything that Mexican police said for granted. (smirk)

     

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