GUILTY MI - Carnel Chamberlain, 4, Mount Pleasant, 21 June 2012 #1

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knoxy, those sure were interesting comments... :-(

I just got home from a baseball tournament with my son and was hoping to hear some good news...


Does anyone know if outside agencies are also involved? (re: outside the reservation?)

It is cool here tonight in Michigan.. I had to put on my sweatshirt around 9pm at the game.. And we have cold front moving in... It is supposed to warm up to around 80 tomorrow but the nights are now cool.

Praying he is found safe and sound!
 
nursebeeme said:
knoxy, those sure were interesting comments... :-(

I just got home from a baseball tournament with my son and was hoping to hear some good news...


Does anyone know if outside agencies are also involved? (re: outside the reservation?)

It is cool here tonight in Michigan.. I had to put on my sweatshirt around 9pm at the game.. And we have cold front moving in... It is supposed to warm up to around 80 tomorrow but the nights are now cool.

Praying he is found safe and sound!
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Midland search and rescue, tribal police and the firefighters planned to continue the search until dark, and if the boy isn't found, they will restart it Saturday morning.

http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/inde...issing-boy-4/fa4cdff15e4e4d36b13eb40a15d891d1
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Doesn't sound like the FBI is involved yet Nurse
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Knox, you would think it would be federal?

My concern is that the reservation is going to keep a tight lid on what is put out (re: info to the public almost to the point of looking like it is "secrecy")

That being said, someone alerted and asked about the facebook of the mom.. unless she has been named in the msm we cannot post that yet at this time...

Has she been named yet in the msm? Does anyone know?
 
“There’s probably 15 different agencies helping out,” Cloutier said. More than 150 volunteers were at work, searching the square-mile area around the house foot by foot. Volunteers came from the Tribal community, the community at large, and included workers at the Soaring Eagle Casino & Resort, the Soaring Eagle Waterpark and Tribal Operations.

http://www.themorningsun.com/articl...ch-for-missing-saginaw-chippewa-boy-continues
 
nursebeeme said:
Knox, you would think it would be federal?

My concern is that the reservation is going to keep a tight lid on what is put out (re: info to the public almost to the point of looking like it is "secrecy")

That being said, someone alerted and asked about the facebook of the mom.. unless she has been named in the msm we cannot post that yet at this time...

Has she been named yet in the msm? Does anyone know?
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No I don't believe so.

Nurse the Tribal spokesman seems to be talking to media and accepting help from outside agencies.

I grew up near a Mohave Indian Reservation. If something went down in town and a tribe member went to the reservation, local LE could not pursue them. Tribal police had to be notified. I believe Indian land falls under federal jurisdiction, but I may be wrong.
 
nurse' afaik she has not been named in the media. Mom's name was added in msm comments only.

hth
 
Knox said:
No I don't believe so.

Nurse the Tribal spokesman seems to be talking to media and accepting help from outside agencies.

I grew up near to a Mohave Indian Reservation. If something went down in town and a tribe member went to the reservation, local LE could not pursue them. Tribal police had to be notified. I believe Indian land falls under federal jurisdiction, but I may be wrong.
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This has me a little confused. Just to clarify... are you saying if someone lives off an Indian reservation but reports it to tribal police, local LE could not investigate?

I'm assuming Carnel's mom lives on a reservation which is why tribal police have jurisdiction, is that correct?
 
Cubby said:
This has me a little confused. Just to clarify... are you saying if someone lives off an Indian reservation but reports it to tribal police, local LE could not investigate?

I'm assuming Carnel's mom lives on a reservation which is why tribal police have jurisdiction, is that correct?
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No, saying local LE (PD or SO) cannot pursue someone who has fled onto tribal property (reservation).

If a tribal member is in town and speeds or does another illegal maneuver in his vehicle, a city cop tries to pull him over but he flees onto the reservation. The cop cannot pursue him and a ticket or arrest him on tribal property. My BIL was a city cop ...
 
Knox said:
No, saying local LE (PD or SO) cannot pursue someone who has fled onto tribal property (reservation).

If a tribal member is in town and speeds or does another illegal maneuver in his vehicle, a city cop tries to pull him over but he flees onto the reservation. The cop cannot pursue him and a ticket or arrest him on tribal property. My BIL was a city cop ...
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Oh, ok. Thank you. I got it.
 
Prayers for little Carnell~

Hoping for good news tomorrow.
 
Knox said:
Same person is commenting here as well.

http://www.themorningsun.com/articl...ch-for-missing-saginaw-chippewa-boy-continues
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Also from the above link:

Tribal spokesman Frank Cloutier said people were coming and going at the boy’s home when his mother noticed the child wasn’t where he should have been.

Swell. People coming and going at almost 10:00 pm at the home of a 4 yr old? *shakes head*

How many people? Have they all been questioned?

*shakes head* again. :sigh:
 
Knox said:
Prayers for little Carnell~

Hoping for good news tomorrow.
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Me too. :please: I don't know. I have a really hard time with a 4 yr old wandering far when it is almost dark. Sure, they'll wander and get so far realizing they are alone and call out for mom. Hoping and praying for a miracle here.


Has anyone done a map of the location from which Carnell went missing?
 
kseal07 said:
Are you seeing the comments made by the relative?
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Yes, lol I posted the link. He is commenting elsewhere too.

Another poster here at WS commented about an arrest earlier tonight, but could not verify. They may have him in custody and are questioning him, or just took him in for questioning and released him. Hopefully tomorrow we'll hear more.
 
longtallcold said:
http://maps.google.com/maps/myplace....59048024,-84.69806943,1766.77,0.682,12.489,0

Remus Road is the N .. Shepherd Rd to the E.. Tomah to the S and Leaton to the W -- it's a big rectangle with....a Water Treatment Plant in the middle of it :(
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Thanks for the map ltc' (Is it ok if I abbv. your user name as ltc'?)

According to the map, the only home which looks like it might have a pool in the back yard is on the north side of E. Tomah, next to the building for water treatment plant. If this is the correct home, from an aerial view those two bodies of water at the treatment plant are a diagonal bee-line from the home. :(

Now I'm wondering what type of fencing they have around these two bodies of water and if it is secure. No small places a tiny child can squeeze through or under. .... And if they can and have drained those two bodies of water.

:sigh: I'm afraid if my guess on which home it is with the pool the two bodies of water with the water treatment facility are within direct view of the pool/backyard area. I can see this area being very attractive to a 4 yr old. :(

Trying to add the map again so it embeds into the post. Not sure if it will work.

tomah road mt. pleasant mi - Google Maps
 
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