MI MI - Julia Niswender, 23, EMU student, Ypsilanti, 10 Dec 2012 - #5

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  1. maxj47

    maxj47 New Member

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    Thanks for the link to the research document. Without trying to sound too critical of that paper and its author, it really isn't much of a research paper, and it is so confusing that it's easy for anyone reading it to be misled.

    I too was misled when I found some table indicating that 100% of serial killers are male. That simply is far from the truth. The link below offers some more verifiable information about the percentage comparisons. Apparently, about 80% of all serial killers are male, and 20% are female. It's an interesting little article.

    Serial Killer Myth #3: They Are All Men

    Cheers.
     
  2. rosesfromangels

    rosesfromangels Amateur speculations and opinion only

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    Max, thanks for the link. What are your thoughts on the Niswender case? Welcome to Websleuths!
     
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  3. jessebtat2n

    jessebtat2n New Member

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    Does anyone know if they checked into co-workers or even professors or even neighbors not just from her building I'm getting the feeling she knew him but kept him a secret hence phone in tub and haven't heard anyone say anything about her dating
     
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  4. Ozoner

    Ozoner Well-Known Member

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    They can't just look into people at random; that would violate people's constitutional rights. There has to be something pointing in a suspect's direction before the police will investigate that person. I'm sure LE has followed up on whatever leads they have.
     
  5. rosesfromangels

    rosesfromangels Amateur speculations and opinion only

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    I seem to recall somewhere in Julia's thread that she was described as being very social with a wide array of friends and that she dated a similarly wide array of guys. This would make LE's task doubly difficult IWT. Quite a large pool to sift through. However, the DNA sample, IIRC, did help narrow the scope significantly to race and a male with a vasectomy.

    This 2015 United Nations report tells us that 1 in 10 men in the U.S. have a vasectomy. That does help narrow the Suspect focus:
    https://www.un.org/en/development/d...f/family/trendsContraceptiveUse2015Report.pdf

    Amateur opinion and speculation
     
  6. black_squirrel

    black_squirrel Well-Known Member

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    I would think that people can look into people at random, as long as they don't harass, search without a warrant etc. I presume police has interviewed many people, including some of the neighbors. But I don't know if they systematically looked into all people who lived in the same building (which is a large number). With my limited resources, I have looked through people living nearby as far as I can track that and looked for connections. I found various connections, but no smoking gun. I believe that the perpetrator lived nearby, but that is just my gut feeling. It does not have to be the case.

    IIRC, it said in the search warrant affidavit that one DNA sample was consistent with a male who had a vasectomy, but there are no further details. I presume that means that either the semen did not contain sperm, or that the semen contained mostly dead sperm cells. There could be other reasons for that.
    I think we cannot be certain that the perpetrator had a vasectomy.

    I don't recall that the DNA pointed toward a particular race, or excluded any race, but I could be wrong.
     
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  7. rosesfromangels

    rosesfromangels Amateur speculations and opinion only

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    Hi Black Squirrel - long time no "see". Thanks for being a faithful on the thread; it's been a long journey it seems.
    Yes, I have also heard that certain diseases or treatments may effect the semen in a manner that would mimic a man with a vasectomy, however I think those are definitely a small percentage, or outlier cases. I would hope that the sophistication of the consulting agencies would be able to rule in, or rule out various factors.

    Speculating, I think LE has long had their Perp in site, and needs cooperation and additional information from one individual to bring this matter to closure. Let's hope that individual will do the right thing. I'm sure they'd sleep better at night.

    Amateur opinion and speculation only
     
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  8. Ozoner

    Ozoner Well-Known Member

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    Do you think that one individual is Julia's mother, yes or no?
     
  9. rosesfromangels

    rosesfromangels Amateur speculations and opinion only

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    I’m not a verified insider on this case, so anything I post is pure amateur speculation and opinion.
    Not appropriate for me to post anyone’s name. I will say I have 100% faith in YPSI LE and the other agencies supporting this case.
     
  10. rosesfromangels

    rosesfromangels Amateur speculations and opinion only

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    Will November be the month there is a major break in this case?
     
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  11. Ozoner

    Ozoner Well-Known Member

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    The entire purpose of the thread is for people to post their opinions...if people are just going to post platitudes here, websleuths might as well close up shop.
    Let me put it another way: when you say that LE needs one person's cooperation, do you have a particular person in mind?
    Incidentally, Julia's stepfather James Turnquist has been named a person of interest Julia's murder, so his name can be used freely.

    Julia Niswender's stepfather named person of interest in her death, police say
     
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  12. drawthis

    drawthis New Member

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    Agreed! This thread is so frustrating. And I will probably get banned for this - but who cares! Why aren’t we hearing more from her mother in the news to find out what happened! Why isn’t her mom here, when her grandfather is, trying to find solutions and get help. Why isn’t her mom
    speaking to the press for help! I am
    Sure we can speculate. There are so many of us who have been following this situation for years, willing to help. No doubt her mom knows this. The fact that this is not receiving attention or is unsolved is unacceptable. With all the interest in true crime, the fact her mom isn’t talking to every true crime podcast is telling. Join me in getting banned?
     
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  13. Ozoner

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    There's no basis for our being banned. James Turnquist is the only named POI, and Julia's mother is his alibi. I think that she gave him a phony alibi, and I think that's only reason why this case hasn't been solved.
     
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  14. Spellbound

    Spellbound falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus

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    There should be no bans if we all stay within TOS. Good to see new input again.

    hello again @Black-squirrel ! Good to see you are still here.

    I wish there would be another update from LE, if only to say they are still working on this. :(
     
  15. rosesfromangels

    rosesfromangels Amateur speculations and opinion only

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    I think the next update from LE will be an arrest. November?

    amateur opinion and speculation
     
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  16. Ozoner

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    I think the next update will be an arrest, but November might be too soon My guess would be January or February--of course I hope for something sooner.
     
  17. drawthis

    drawthis New Member

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    Why do you guys think?
     
  18. Trojan1966

    Trojan1966 Verified Family Member Julia Niswender

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    Short Update on Julia's case......

    Kim (Julia's mother) has been sending questions to the Ypsilanti Police. They will only talk to her as they stated in November 2018. Recently I sent Kim some questions for her to send to the Chief of Police. He sent her the answers. One question was who and when was the DNA profile entered into CODIS? The answer was the Michigan State Police (MSP) Crime Lab entered the DNA profile into CODIS in September 2015. I'm glad this was done but unfortunately there have been no matches since then. The MSP have been very helpful by answering some of my "general" questions, but they cannot discuss case specific type of questions. So now, my research will continue and as "old timers" on this thread know that the Ypsi Police have done an extensive investigation of Julia's co-workers, friends and neighbors.

    Unfortunately for most of the time on this case, there has been only one detective working it. There have not been many public updates from Ypsi LE concerning this case. I would have thought the more publicity given early on would have been helpful in getting some "leads". Ypsi LE does not seem to like the idea of more publicity even today! They now have two detectives but I'm not sure if both are working this case. We (the family) have been told on numerous occasions and meetings with LE that this is a very solvable case. My comment is: "It's been almost seven years, why not get some "outside" help!" Time moves on. I will be with my family around the 10th of December for our seventh candlelight vigil.

    Thanks to all on this thread for your thoughts and ideas. One day (I hope soon!) we will have Justice for Julia.
     
  19. Spellbound

    Spellbound falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus

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    Thanks for coming by, Trojan. If am trusted by the slowness and what seems a lack of interest, I cannot imagine your frustrations (((hug)))
     
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  20. Trojan1966

    Trojan1966 Verified Family Member Julia Niswender

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    Well, my plans have changed. I will not be going up to Michigan to be with my family around the 10th of December. I made a public post on FaceBook and within it, I said that I would like to see Kim and JT provide formal written statements to LE. This really caused quite a discussion and basically my daughter, Kim and her two daughters have again severed their relationship with me. This is the second time this has happened and will be the last as far as I'm concerned. For almost a year, we have been trying to "build" back our relationship and now it is over again. Until this murder is solved or Kim & JT provide LE with written formal statements, I don't see a future in our relationship. Kim is the only person LE will talk to and she very seldom contacts them, probably only twice in the last year. I know most mothers would be "pounding" on LE's desk once a week or more. Why won't they give statements, do they have something to hide, did they lie to LE early on in the investigation, I don't know the answer and probably never will. I will continue my research and appreciate any ideas people give me on this site. LE has interviewed and DNA tested many, many people that they thought might be involved - neighbors, co-workers, people Julia dated, her room mates and their friends plus many students that Julia may have known. All of this and still no results. I truly believe that sooner or later, forensic science will solve this crime. I pray that it will be sooner!
     
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