MI MI - Luce Co., WhtMale Skeletal 94UMMI, 23-30, near Lake Superior, Oct'87

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  1. hoppyfrog

    hoppyfrog Retired WS Staff

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    The Doe Network:
    Case File 94UMMI


    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/94ummi.html

    Unidentified White Male Located on October 24, 1987, 0.2 miles south of Lake Superior and 1.2 miles WSW of Little Lake Harbor near the Blue hiking trail. In Chippewa county, Whitefish Township, Michigan.
    Cause of death: No evidence was noted on the remains that indicated cause or manner of death.
    <LI>The victim has been deceased since January 1987 to September 1987.




    Vital Statistics

    • Estimated age: 23 - 30 years old (born between 1957 and 1964).
    • Approximate Height and Weight: 5'8" - 6'0"
    • Distinguishing Characteristics: Reddish brown, short, recently cut hair and a short mustache. He had a possible scar or lump or discoloration on his left cheek. Possibly due to an accident, the left side of his face was fractured and depressed. The left femur displayed a healed fracture which had been treated with a metal rod implant. The injury probably occurred when the individual was an adult. He had moderate scoliosis (spinal curvature) and may have walked with a limp.
    • Dentals: The condition of his teeth were good.
    • Clothing: The clothing suggests moderate to warm temperatures.

    Investigators
    If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:
    D/Sgt. Robin Sexton at MSP St. Ignace
    906-643-8383



    I highlighted the sentence about the metal rod implant in the left femur. My question is this: would a metal rod such as that have a serial number or other identifying mark that could be traced back to a manufacturer and then to a particular hospital and patient? I would think that manufacturers, hospitals and doctors would want to track such things in case of a recall of a medical device.

    Thanks,

    Hoppy
     
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  3. Paradise

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    You bring up a good question. I can see your point about it being kept track of due to recalls but on the other hand, it was only a rod, it wasn't a hip or knee replacement. I'll try to check into it further.
     
  4. hoppyfrog

    hoppyfrog Retired WS Staff

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    Thanks for your help. And I see your point that it wasn't a joint replacement or a pacemaker. Still, even metal rods could be mis-manufactured and you'd think for liability reasons the manufacturer would want to notify everyone who received one.

    Remember the case in the news last week where tainted dog food had to be recalled? They put identifying marks on bags of dog food, so I hope they'd do the same for medical devices!

    Hoppy
     
  5. PonderingThings

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    It is my understanding that there is a move on to put a serial number on ALL products that are incorporated into someone's body. Even the smallest screw will have an identifying code.

    Problem is currently not all components have that identifier. Some who do refer back only to a lot number, not an individual patient who got the component. Yes, it would be possible to trace shipments BUT in some cases the products are shipped in purchases that last quite a while, or are then shipped to a wide variety of offices/hospitals (depending on the product), so tracking it to an individual becomes too difficult.

    Imagine a specific tire that only fits on one car. Lets use, for example purposes only, a 2005 Honda Accord. These cars are sold all over.

    So lets say its a recall and somehow there is an identifying batch number. You know that these tires were sold with the cars that were shipped only to New York State. Because of the sheer number of cars, that were sold in New York State, even for that short time period, the possibility of running down all the owners, and all the people that the car switched title to, would be extremely difficult.... not impossible... but difficult.

    In the case of a medical product, it might have been shipped to multiple States... therefore, impossible to trace backwards... but perhaps possible to confirm once a potential match to the victim is identified.

    Make sense?
     
  6. hoppyfrog

    hoppyfrog Retired WS Staff

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    Have you found out anything yet?

    Thanks,

    Hoppy
     
  7. gatetrekker44

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    the composition of the rod maybe a clue to id'ing the victim. Each company has a specific "formula" of metals in specific %'s that are unique to a manufacturer. A metallurgical analysis could very well lead to the manufacturer, and then to the time frame when the rod was created and sold.

    Something in the overall description makes me wonder if this person may have been in the military at one time? Has anyone checked that possible source of info?
     
  8. hoppyfrog

    hoppyfrog Retired WS Staff

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    What makes you think military?
     
  9. Paradise

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    I didn't forget about you. I was trying to get in touch with someone from a hip replacement/problem forum I belong to. Hopefully I'll hear back by tomorrow. I'll let you know as soon as I hear something.
     
  10. hoppyfrog

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    Thanks! I really appreciate it.

    Hoppy
     
  11. Paradise

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    Ok so far everyone on the totallyhip.org forum thinks that there should be some sort of identifying mark or number on the metal rod. I'm going to e-mail the area director on doenetwork to see if this was ever checked into. I've also e-mailed a retired orthopedic surgeon who sometimes posts on totally hip to see what he has to say.
     
  12. gatetrekker44

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    I don't know exactly what makes me think military-I guess the fact that:
    the age, the short hair and mustache, the teeth in good condition, and the fact that the leg fracture was repaired with a rod, but the injury to the face
    was not well-repaired. That kind of goes with the military mentality of "fix 'em up well enough to serve", but the facial injury wasn't dealt with.

    Just something about the description made me think of a military member who may have recently gotten out on a medical discharge-wonder if the authorities that have jurisdiction checked VA hospital records in the area?
     
  13. Paradise

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    I can't believe it but I got an e-mail from the orthopaedic surgeon this morning! What he said was pretty much what I was thinking, but there is some small possibility that he could be ID'd through this. I'm still waiting to hear back from the Michigan area director on doe. I know she's a busy lady.

     
  14. hoppyfrog

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    I see what you mean. I wonder if there are any VA hospitals in the area.

    Hoppy
     
  15. hoppyfrog

    hoppyfrog Retired WS Staff

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    Thanks for the follow-up. When you hear from the Michigan area director on doe, let us know.

    Hoppy
     
  16. mtrooper

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    Unidentified Caucasian Male

    Chippewa county, Whitefish Township, Michigan
    # Located October 24, 1987
    # No evidence indicating cause or manner of death.
    # This individual has been deceased since January 1987 to September 1987

    Vital Statistics

    Estimated age: 23 - 30 years old -- born between 1957 and 1964

    Approximate Height : 5'8" - 6'0"

    Distinguishing Characteristics: Reddish brown, short, recently cut hair and a short mustache. The remains displayed a number of pathological lesions, some of which may have been related to a single incident. The left femur displayed a healed rotational fracture which had been treated with a metal rod implant. Alignment was good and the trauma might not have caused later problems. The injury probably occurred when the individual was an adult. Possibly related to the same accident were injuries to the left side of the face and nose. The left cheek bone and orbit displayed comminuted fractures. The left side of the face was depressed posteriorly and the left cheek bone displayed a mass of exostosis (bony growth). The bridge of the nose displayed severe fractures. Possibly the injury to the tooth occurred at the same time the left side of the face was injured. The spinal column displayed a moderate amount of scoliosis. A possible old fracture was noted on the right clavicle. This individual possibly walked with a limp.

    Dentals: Teeth were in good condition. The dental treatment and care of the individual suggested that he was neither indigent nor a vagrant. The treatment had been rather thorough and there were no serious pathologies that had gone untreated. Nor was there more than a moderate amount of accumulated tartar. The left central maxillary incisor was capped with a composite and displayed a root canal.

    Clothing: The clothing suggests moderate to warm temperatures.

    Circumstances
    This individual was located north of Newberry. The exact location was 0.2 miles south of Lake Superior and 1.2 miles WSW of Little Lake Harbor near the Blue hiking trail. Chippewa county Whitefish Township.

    Investigating Agency

    Michigan State Police: St. Ignace Post
    D/Sgt. Robin Sexton
    906-643-8383
    Agency Case Number: 82-1102-87

    Source: Michigan State Police
     
  17. mtrooper

    mtrooper Verified SAR

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    Possible match?


    Endangered Missing Adult

    If you believe you have any information regarding this case that will be helpful in this investigation please contact:
    Miami Township Police Department at (513) 248-3721

    Name: Ronald Allen Vonderheide
    Classification: Endangered Missing Adult
    Alias / Nickname: Ron
    Date of Birth: 1964-01-23
    Date Missing: 1987-05-05
    From City/State: Cincinnati, OH
    Missing From (Country): USA
    Age at Time of Disappearance: 23
    Gender: Male
    Race: White
    Height: 70 inches
    Weight: 160 to 185 pounds
    Hair Color: Lt. Brown
    Eye Color: Blue
    Complexion: Light
    Identifying Characteristics: Quarter size scar on back of upper left arm, quarter size scar on back, bullet lodged in back in ribs, missing crown on upper front tooth, previously fractured ankle.
    Clothing: T-shirt, shorts, athletic shoes.
    Circumstances of Disappearance: Unknown. Ronald was last seen at approximately 9:00am at his residence in the vicinity if of the 6200 block of Cambridge Ave. in Cincinnati, OH.
    Investigative Agency: Miami Township Police Department
    Phone: (513) 248-3721
    Investigative Case #: 06-5493
    NCIC #: M-865873838

    http://www.theyaremissed.org/ncma/gallery/ncmaprofile_all.php?A200604060S
     
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    Ok the looks are strikingly similar but really gets me is the injures. I spoke with the mother she confirmed that when her son was 16 he was hit while he was riding his moped and there was a lot of damage done to the left side of his body. Let me know what you think.
     
  20. distracted 1976

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    Looks good to me mtrooper. Hope you call it in, you never know!
     
  21. Spurser

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    What about that bullet Ronald has lodged in the back of his ribs? I don't see that being mentioned for the John Doe.
     

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