MI - Nevaeh Buchanan, 5, Monroe, 24 May 2009 - Body found - #6

[MIMOMMY]

Ok - Im going to try and remain very calm - and say my opinion - then I wont say anything else about this particular subject ---

JB is a victim? She was a mother - yet committed a crime that took her away from her child - then when she was released from jail - she brought her 5 yr old daughter around RSO - and allowed her to apparently (and I say this because God only knows what the true story is) run around the apartment building playing in other childrens apartments and outside and whereever else - with no shoes - and had to be told twice (again who knows for sure) before she realized her daughter was missing........

NAVEAH is the victim here!!!! Your right JB did lose her daughter - but IF she would have been WITH her daughter while she played --- How much safer would she have been?

 

[impatientredhead]

Huh...let's have a gander at what JB has said in this article:

http://www.freep.com/article/20090607/NEWS05/906070501




The article goes on to state:
1. LE and the FBI has interviewed JB at least 4 times, with one interview lasting five hours.

2. JB states herself that she feels like the LE and FBI that interviewed her are accusing her.

3. She says she doesn't need a lawyer because she is innocent (We've heard that one before eh?)

4. JB was also interviewed by Behavior Specialist from the FBI.


Now here is my interpretation as of today. It may change as more information comes out. LE has not named her as a suspect, they haven't named her as a POI in the investigation.

BUT ~ They haven't cleared her. That is very important. It's not always what LE says but what they don't say. JMHO that until LE says so, she's on my list.

The state doesn't provide an attorney until you charged and she does not have the funds to hire one. She could refuse anymore questioning and in all honesty the more she talks the deeper she seems to get herself into me.

 

[Kat]

I agree Impatientredhead...she needs to hush and stop defending herself. She's not doing herself any favors. Her previous behaviors have cast a shadow over her and at this point there probably isn't anything she can say or do that would be seen in a positive light.

 

[KR2tonenow]

The child had no dental records, I find that odd.

It is possible Nevaeh was unconscious and put face down in the mud and suffocated with the ready mix cement.

The left her by the river, still alive and smothered her in cement. That is why the COD release is taking so long.

Locals that live in the area know that Monroe, is a very small rural town in Mich. The SO should be caught if local.

My hinky says not local at all.

 

[MIMOMMY]

Elle - I cant find it - trying to call other half -- we switched to dish network and now I cant even really honestly remember what local channel was on the screen and what was playing on picture to picture.......

 

[faefrost]

I have not seen an account from the GM as to where she was when all this took place. I have only seen the mother's. Is there one and if so can you point me in the right direction so I can read it? TIA

The GM was at work. I forget the specifics but she was in public I can't see any way she was involved. And unlike a certain other well known GM of a murdered child, she does not seem to have any trouble believing her daughter might be involved.

The GM essentially raised this child. The mother whos behavior we keep being shocked at has essentially only been back in his childs life for a matter of weeks (and the child back in hers). The level of obvious disinterest is clear. The GM was the raising parental figure, the birth mother was at best a poor choice of babysitter.

And I feel more for teh GM then possibly anyone else in this (with the possible exception of the poor little girl). At the very least I am sure she is going to lose her home over this. No appartment complex like that will tolerate a resident bringing multiple RSO's onto the grounds. Especially not once it becomes public knowlege.

 

[laniefi]

Anyone know if LE is still processing the discovery scene? I'd like to get down there to take some pictures for us but do not want to - in any way - make it harder for LE.

I'm swamped @ work - so I didn't have time to read all the posts today...

 

[impatientredhead]

Since I started following this case I've been growing increasingly appalled at attacks on Nevaeh's mom. Are we blaming the relatives of victims, who are also victims themselves? I'd just like to say that as far as I know the mother has never been listed by LE as a person of interest, and that so far there's not one suggestion of eveidence she had anything to do with the crime. Yet I've heard her called a meth addict, crackhead, bad mother, a child molester...with seemingly no reason. And I would add, most of this name calling and attacks seem to be coming from other women (who you would think would be her biggest supporters).
I saw a rare tv interview with her today (where her face was not shown in keeping with MI's policy to victims), where she appeared a young, overweight, poor, unsophisticated, gentle person, completely out of her element. I've never seen a fat 'meth addict', and she didn't seem a criminal type of any sort. What happened to supportering victims families?
I think everyone should lighten up on her, until we know different...she's a victim too.

There is a big difference between supporting the victims families and enabling and empathizing with what some of us see as child endangerment.

She is a convicted felon- fact
For a crime committed while supporting her drug habit- fact
She did this after Neveah was born- fact
She has spent almost a year in jail during her daughters 5 years on the planet- fact
She has had drug addiction problems in the past- fact
She did not know where her daughter was so she cannot even tell the police when or where she disappeared.
And last but not least she had an intimate relationship and put a KNOWN sex offender in a father figure role with her child. And that is not even to mention the OTHER sex offender that she is friends with.

As long as we keep wrapping up behavior like this as being a victim when the foreseeable outcome occurs it will just keep going on. Accountability would go a long way in most of these situations.

 

[MIMOMMY]

impatient -- I wish I could just keep clicking Thanks on that last post -- EXACTLY what I was trying to say a minute ago.......

 

[faefrost]

The child had no dental records, I find that odd.

It is possible Nevaeh was unconscious and put face down in the mud and suffocated with the ready mix cement.

The left her by the river, still alive and smothered her in cement. That is why the COD release is taking so long.

Locals that live in the area know that Monroe, is a very small rural town in Mich. The SO should be caught if local.

My hinky says not local at all.

My wife works in pediatric dentistry for the state department of health. From talking with her it sounds like Neveah was pretty normal for the age group. She did have dental records and had a dental exam. That is a requirement of Headstart, and it is often contracted through public healh services. (the wife see's ALOT of these). But they do not typically do x-rays this young unless there is some obvious pathology. Standard practice is to not expose the very young children to x-rays unless needed. So if she had no visible problems with her teeth she would not have current dental x-rays. It is the x-rays that would be needed for a positive ID. Although the childs written dental records are probably part of that tentative identification that has been made.

I think she would have been just under the typical age range when they start doing x-rays, especially depending on how long ago her exam actually was. Just guessing on her age, her next dentist visit would have probably been her first set of x-rays.

 

[impatientredhead]

The child had no dental records, I find that odd.

It is possible Nevaeh was unconscious and put face down in the mud and suffocated with the ready mix cement.

The left her by the river, still alive and smothered her in cement. That is why the COD release is taking so long.

Locals that live in the area know that Monroe, is a very small rural town in Mich. The SO should be caught if local.

My hinky says not local at all.

She doesn't have xrays, which is not unusual for the age.
She has a dental record, a check up was required to enter the headstart program. Her dental record does not contain anything that the ME's office can use.

 

[LaLaw2000]

Fox news just spoke about Nevaeh and Haleigh.

 

[mck16]

The GM was at work. I forget the specifics but she was in public I can't see any way she was involved. And unlike a certain other well known GM of a murdered child, she does not seem to have any trouble believing her daughter might be involved.

The GM essentially raised this child. The egg donor whos behavior we keep being shocked at has essentially only been back in his childs life for a matter of weeks (and the child back in hers). The level of obvious disinterest is clear. The GM was the raising parental figure, the birth mother was at best a poor choice of babysitter.

And I feel more for teh GM then possibly anyone else in this (with the possible exception of the poor little girl). At the very least I am sure she is going to lose her home over this. No appartment complex like that will tolerate a resident bringing multiple RSO's onto the grounds. Especially not once it becomes public knowlege.

I started to edit my post because I was in no way implying I thought the GM was involved. I was wondering if she could corroborate any of the information JB was offering. But, if she wasn't home then I don't guess she can.

But,on the other hand I did hear her say she did not think her daughter was involved in this. That was early on. As a grandmother myself I don't in any way believe GM was involved and I certainly would not want to believe my daughter was. IMO

 

[MissJames]

I don't know if she had anything to do with her childs murder... but allowing her 5 year old child to run free unsupervised while she sits on the sofa watching "Jon and Kate +8" is negligence IMO. The other child coming to the door to tell her that Neveah is "in the street" and then her referring to this child as a "tattletale"??? Unbelievable...

Most outrageous of all is befriending SO's, and allowing these guys to be around her daughter. She stated how can one know that someone is a SO unless they're on the list... like she didn't have access to the list so she shouldn't be held accountable for anything... but then she says that GK told her about his past. She knew about these guys but was friends with them anyway. Unbelievable!!! Exposing her daughter to them - to me - is outright total and flagrant negligence. IMO

Grandma had custody and knew what mom was capable of.Grandma should not have left Neveah with mom.I hold her equally responsible

 

[LaLaw2000]

And now they are talking about Brittany Drexel.

 

[KR2tonenow]

Can you give us a recap thanks!

 

[Facts given]

WillenFan just posted the info that Nevaeh's mom will be on NG tonight? OMG. nancy is going to 'slap' her for her SO boyfriend. Good she has courage to appear on the show though.
Remember that Ducket 'fiasco'?

 

[Kat]

http://www.detnews.com/article/2009...g-in-Nevaeh-case-could-take-days--family-told

Monday, June 8, 2009


Testing in Nevaeh case could take days, family told

...The family of 5-year-old Nevaeh Buchanan said they were told by authorities today it could take several days before a girl's body found near the River Raisin is positively identified...

...Shaun Lawson, Nevaeh's uncle, said authorities would not release information on the cause of death to the family unless the girl is confirmed to be Nevaeh...

I think that answers our questions about why the COD, and time of death have not been released as of yet. They won't release any information until a positive ID has been made. I'm concerned that the state of decomp might have been advanced and it might hinder some testing. JMHO

 

[Chilly Willy]

Grandma had custody and knew what mom was capable of.Grandma should not have left Neveah with mom.I hold her equally responsible

I'm not sure Grandma had a lot of choices. She, apparently, was the sole provider for the three of them, and worked for close to minimum wage at a local grocery store. What was she supposed to do, not go to work? It's easy to judge someone when we're not in their shoes.

 

[LaLaw2000]

I did not get the experts full names, but they were John and Chuck - talking heads. Anyway, John stated that JB is making all of this about herself and not about Nevaeh. Just short statements, but not favorable to JB.

Chuck stated that the mother's DNA if found on the body would be expected, but that foreign DNA would not. (duh!) He seems to think that the DNA results will tell the tale. (again, duh!)

In other words, a big fat nothing came out of this interview.

Dawn Drexel spoke and still thinks that the girls she went to Myrtle Beach do know something.

On Haleigh's case, the 'roundtable' discussion was mentioned. Also seemed to think that Misty knows more than she is saying. (of course she does)

At least it got Nevaeh, Haleigh's, and Brittany's name in the news.