Michael Jackson ~ new accuser files

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  1. gitana1

    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    What grown man calls little boys late at night and talks to them for hours by phone? The same kids he sleeps with, showers with gifts and attention, cuddles with and poses provocatively for photos with?

    There have been many allegations against Jackson and the allegations are similar. The allegations are also supported by witness statements from adults and kids who admitted to watching/looking at porn and drinking wine at Neverland (classic grooming techniques) even while they claimed he wasn't molesting anyone.
     
  2. Catmammy

    Catmammy Well-Known Member

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    I saw Latoya Jackson on Geraldo Rivera's daytime talk show many years ago when she said that she'd never seen Michael abuse or misuse anyone but she had seen him take boys into his bedroom and that when they came out again they were "different". When Geraldo pressed her for different how, she said they were just "different", their mannerisms, but especially, their "eyes". This was certainly back in the late 1980s or early 1990s.
     
  3. Catmammy

    Catmammy Well-Known Member

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    And, yes, it made that much of an impression on me at that time that I remembered her words.
     
  4. KALI

    KALI Well-Known Member

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    25 years ago I was friends with Mindy, she was a private hire stewardess for the very wealthy.
    Long before accusations came out, we had a few glasses of wine, wherein she told me the idiocracy of some of her clients.
    She flew with Michael Jackson 3 times.
    She told me, that in her opinion, that he was a pedophile. Based upon what she witnessed on these transanlactic flights.
    I believed her then, and I believe her now.
    She did not say anything like that about her other very rich customers.
    She had no axe to grind.
    Personally, I find it very sad that parents gave away their children for money and hopefully fame.
     
  5. iailwa

    iailwa Former Member

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    What would they be looking for? I don't understand. Do you mean child porn? Any evidence against the actual children in case - would be extremely hard to find... wouldn't it?
     
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  6. iailwa

    iailwa Former Member

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    Did you see James Safechuck in the Oprah special - did you see the hurt written on his face? He came out later than the Australian - it's obvious he's hurting ATM? So is Wade, but he's a little more composed. This is terrible what happened to them
     
  7. iailwa

    iailwa Former Member

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    Also, when MJ married the mother of his two eldest children in Australia - his best man was an 8 year old boy! just to add to your fabulous observations!
     
  8. iailwa

    iailwa Former Member

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    Paedophiles arise in EVERY social or economic situation (there is no boundaries). I can give you plenty of examples if you like... even stars are paedophiles wow - everyday people, stars, famous people, lawyers, judges, doctors, sports people - it doesn't matter "what" they do - if they are a pedo that acts upon their desires, then they are a predator - no matter how famous they are
     
  9. iailwa

    iailwa Former Member

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    I agree somewhat - but as a abusee myself - my parents weren't around when this happened to me. It only happened when they went out! I'm not saying they are innocent... but in actual fact my parents had no idea leaving me with him was a big mistake & I could NOT tell them at the time. Red flags came up obviously - wrt to the these boys parents with mj- but who is the perpetrator here, in reality - it wasn't the parents, it was MJ. Yes? Yeah the parents could of taken better care for sure, but if they knew, then what would have happened? Two parents died of suicide over this. I think sometimes the parents can be blamed but with some degree it has to be the perps fault primarily... & then secondly the parents. He groomed everyone that's for sure...
     
  10. iailwa

    iailwa Former Member

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    Oh this comment makes me want to crawl under a rock and not come out for a while. It's beliefs like this that allow abusers to continue. The joy and compassion he bought to world, is nothing compared to the lives he ruined, unfortunately...
     
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  11. Blondie in Spokane

    Blondie in Spokane Well-Known Member

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    I wish all of MJ’s music would be removed from the airwaves. Whenever I hear one of his songs I cringe and switch channels immediately.
     
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  12. AllyBeeUK

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    I am mind-blown that people are still defending him. There is not a single person in my life that I would defend under these circumstances. If any man in my life, no matter how much I love them, was displaying this behaviour around young boys and had been accused of molestation by 6 different children, I would have to accept the fact that perhaps I do not know that person as well as I thought I did. I would be the first in line to say that even though I love that person they have to admit to their sickness and deal with the consequences of their actions.

    The people bending over backwards to defend him are the reason why people get away for years with this sort of abuse. I believe Wade and James, but even if I didn't, even if these two men were lying it wouldn't change my opinion on the perpetrator. He is a text book abuser who has hidden in plain sight for decades.

    It is a failure on society as a whole that we fail to protect our children from these people. We can never afford to turn a blind eye to this behaviour and we do not give the benefit of the doubt to grown men who sleep in bed with a succession of other people's young children. I have no time for anyone defending this behaviour.

    I am so disgusted that I can't even refer to this monster by name anymore. I can't bear to type it, or say it out loud.

    Every time you defend a perpetrator, you silence a victim.
     
  13. diamond12

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    I used to be skeptical about the accusations, then again I didn't know much about the trials. After watching the documentary though...
    I had my own problems during my childhood, the way James and Wade talked and the things they said were very familiar to me. Although my story is much different the feelings are similar. I saw pain and sadness in their eyes, if it's fake they must be great actors.
    I also started experiencing issues much later in life, just like they did.
    It was hard to watch honestly, I feel sad these guys received threats and lots of evil comments.
    The fact that he always wanted to have these children in his bed at night is weird.
    The whole "he wanted to live his childhood as an adult" narrative would make sense if he brought the children (with family) at his ranch only during the day, or had arrangements for the kids to sleep with the parents.
    I don't know, I feel very confused and bad. Anyway, MJ aside, lots of wonderful people have double lives with very dark secrets.
     
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  14. Vaccine

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    And MJ's family, the inheritors of his estate and his fierce defenders, have a lot to lose from his being accepted as a paedophile. Many of them have gained in their careers and reputations by the association with MJ. Its not surprising they want to discredit the boys. Its not just the accusers (who I entirely believe) who could be accused of having financial motivations. They have a lot to lose. And questions will need to be asked about what they knew and why they turned a blind eye and left his own children at risk in his company.

     
  15. Andieinsyd

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    I do feel for Jackson’s three children. This must be incredibly confronting for them, and not sure whether their support system is terribly solid.
     
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  16. Pi Thoughts

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    As I am an Aussie, just had to reference this:(

    His divorce to Lisa Marie Presley had been finalised just three months prior. Visiting Australia on his HIStory world tour, Jackson wed nurse Debbie Rowe at Sydney’s Sheraton on the Park Hotel in front of a small gathering of close friends.

    His best man was an eight-year-old boy.

    At the time of the wedding, Rowe was heavily pregnant with the first of two children she would “gift” Jackson, having a minimal presence in their upbringing.

    Inside Michael Jackson and Debbie Rowe’s mysterious marriage
     
  17. Mickey Mouse

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    Take the rock star fame and fortune out for a minute.

    Marty Johnson is an adult male, unmarried, with only a couple of short and rather atypical relationships with women. He spends a lot of his time with prepubescent boys. He built a huge playground in his backyard, and has invited young boys in the neighborhood over to play. He developed a close relationship with some of these young boys, and often invited them on trips and to stay at his house. Some of these boys spent large amounts of time alone with Marty, staying at his house for extended lengths of time. Several of the boys have come forward with stories of porn, alcohol, sleeping in the same bed, and molestation.

    Marty has numerous locks on his bedroom door, and cameras set up so he can see anyone approaching his bedroom.

    Marty readily admits to sharing a bed with these boys, but says it's innocent and he's just a child at heart (even though he is an adult male nearing middle age).

    It doesn't matter if Marty is an accountant, a bricklayer, a cab driver, etc. Marty is a pedophile.
     
  18. Gardenista

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    I find WR and JS to be very, very sincere and belieavble.
     
  20. Catmammy

    Catmammy Well-Known Member

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    Spoken like the self important, mean spirited diva she seems to be. Never having been in the shoes of the victims, obviously, she blames them. You just lost a fan, Barbra, and I imagine I'm far from the only one.
     

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