Michael Pak

Discussion in 'Long Island Serial Killer' started by WINDSOR, Feb 2, 2012.

  1. WINDSOR

    WINDSOR Well-Known Member

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    Good points Tugela, and no doubt some women enter the sex trade, freely and under no compulsion or coercion, no pimps, agents or others living off the woman; however the reality is that the majority are not making the choice freely.

    Here are some analysis of the situation in North America.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3651545/

    https://www.canadianwomen.org/wp-co...T-Assessment-of-Sex-Trafficking-in-Canada.pdf

    https://etd.ohiolink.edu/!etd.send_file?accession=bgsu1404743507&disposition=inline

    Yes some women freely choose this career path, but it often is a bad choice long term.

    I understand I am inferring some moral standard, rather than a strict capitalistic economic analysis. We should never forget the intrinsic worth of human beings is more than their simple economic worth.
     
  2. PickleChris

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    If you run out on your John without getting paid, you probably don't have money to pay your driver/pimp. That's reason enough for her to be frightened of Pak.
     
  3. deedee21

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    Hawk, did you read websleuths news at the top of the forum?
     
  4. BeachBods

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    Michael Pak among 3 others is just another unfortunate victim of the true puppet master actually pullling all the strings. So here we go ultimate fall guy #2. Michael Pak a man of average I.Q. with limited options due to his criminal past. Lands a gig that entails him driving the less marginalized to the elite of Oak Beach. Hes actually not quite intelligent enough to beat the lie detector. So he takes the polygraph because he actually doesn't have anything to hid. Passes with flying colors. Initial contact with Dr Feel good and him is close to none except maybe the passing of a phone number in a frantic search he clearly only engages in to squash and shift the blame of someone he obviously feels some blame for in her death. He and the doctor slowly develop a relationship due to their from the commonality of their names being equally dragged through the mud. The issue is i dont think pak doesn' even know how close he gets to the beast of burden. Him and Shannons presence in the quaint little party town is merely coincidence and only gains relevance to other bodies because of her career choices. A lot of people are being postered up to hide the actual puppet master/master of ceremonies who is the only one capable enough of pulling all the strings. JB is #1 on that list and Michael pak is #2. Followed by #3 who is the other JB people alleged by many to be the absolute closest link to burlap. This individual is never even placed at oak beach by anyone and is only linked to this investigation by the unfortunate timing of his suicide that forever linked his name to this case. Access to burlap simply to me is not enough to destroy the legacy of a man who tragically kills himself the day after an escorts body is found. I think John ray is blowing smoke about his links to Shannon despite being a supporter of him. Anything he says is purely speculation until someone comes forward and id's him as an attendee of one of these drug fueled party's. The key to getting lisk lies in the conscience of one of these attendees coming forward risking there reputation and willing to make some powerful enemies.
     
  5. twocuriouscats

    twocuriouscats Searching for Killer Owls

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    Just catching up!

    Hi Windsor,
    I'm catching up too (it's now 6/2018)! We've been working together since this began. I want you to know that when I finally took Shannan out of the picture (LISK), the case became more clear to me. Just try it. Everybody try it...please
     
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    LR1 Well-Known Member

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    Knowing this, what does it mean then when 9 out of the first 13 threads either has SG in the title or is a thread directly related to that aspect of this cluster???? You could round the irrelevancy off to 10 with the Suffolk county corruption, a.k.a. water is wet thread. You haven't missed much but while you're catching up and in case you didn't hear, I hear the vultures are back in town also with a movie in the works. Exploitation at its finest, sure hope everyone gets paid.
     
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  7. WINDSOR

    WINDSOR Well-Known Member

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    Some Comments,
    Shannan's death may have little or nothing to do with the LISK and the other deaths. I just do not have a opinion or knowledge.

    Michael Pak, I believe, is key to solving Shannan's death. I feel he has a lot of direct involvement and knowledge. This is based on the facts he was chasing Shannan, he was the last to see her alive, he left Oak Beach prior to LE arrival, and he had interactions with Hackett.
     
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  8. Breaking Bad

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    Im listening to the lead detective on Part 6.
    He has the time Shannan called 9-1-1. He has her at Coletti's at 5:13am. AFTER she leaves Coletti's her phone cuts out, with the lead detective stating the battery ALL OF A SUDDEN RAN OUT, because she'd been on the phone a considerable amount of time. What a moron.

    She had an iphone 6 Detective, and 23 minutes is NOT a considerable amount of time.

    Coletti's call goes into SCPD 911, and Shannan ends up at Brennan's house. @11:06 Coletti stated to police that Pak went AFTER Shannan from Coletti's. NO SHYTE.
    @11:27 the detective said that the police thought Pak took control of her, but realize that is not the case. B.S. HE TOOK THE DAMN PHONE FROM HER YOU MORON. HE WANTED HER TO SHUT THE FRIG UP.

    @11:56 Detective states police have arrived and meet Coletti and Brennan, but Pak and Shannan are gone. NO SHYTE DETECTIVE.

    So, considering Coletti knew that Brewer had a party, the cops only had to go to 8 The Fairway and find out it was an illegal criminal enterprise. Prostitution is illegal. It is a criminal enterprise.

    Hawk -I give you a thousand points for all your ranting on how crooked these bums are.

    Alex Diaz went to SCPD on May 2 at 11:30pm with Brewer to report Shannan missing. The police laughed them out of the station.

    Mari called SCPD on May 3, 2010 at 9:07AM for 1 minute on May 3, 2010 and at 9:09am for 7 minutes. She was looking for Shannan and trying to report her missing. See her phone record below - at the bottom of the page in BIG letters, I put SCPD 1st precinct.

    @16:36 Detective states she was safe at Coletti's. UNTIL SHE SAW PAK WHO SHE WAS FLEEING FROM.

    WHAT THE FRIG IS WRONG WITH THIS GUY
    does he NOT know about a pimp - beating his girl?
    Pak snapped and beat the crap out of Shannan at Brewer's.
    Over money.
    WHY are SCPD covering up for a vicious pimp who beats people. Prostitution is a deadly deadly business.

    He is completely victim blaming Shannan
    and by the way- Alex went to Oak Beach at 11am on
    May 3, 2010 and met Canning and Gambino.
    BOTH of them told Alex they heard Shannan's screams
    for help.

    Gambino lives exactly across the street from Hackett,
    so Brennan was NOT the last to see Shannan alive.
    The killer was. How come this detective never mentions witnesses who saw Shannan running (canning) and heard Shannan screaming (Karen Gambino - who has MOVED out of OB since May, 2010)
     

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  9. Breaking Bad

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    @18:16 the detective said that Shannan ran away from Coletti.
    WRONG - she ran from PAK.

    This guy has too many holes in his story. He clearly does not know about a pimp beating the shyte out of his girl over not doing what he told her to do.

    Detective clearly doesnt know about a full blown panic when one or more are beating you - or threatening to kill you. And that would be Michael Pak - my friends, a pimp does things like that.

    They are nasty vicious thugs who all belong in prison.
     

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  10. Breaking Bad

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    This detective clearly has not done his homework.

    There is NO statute of limitations on involuntary manslaughter.
    Pak drove her to work and she fled from HIM for her life.
    End of statement.

    Same as Megan Waterman.
    Akeem brought her to NY for purposes of prostitution (from Maine)

    Shannan cross the border of New Jersey and New York - she crossed state lines.
    Pak could get the Mann Act, and Alex, too. Alex was not working at the time of May 1, 2010. Shannan was earning the money to pay for rent for Shannan AND ALEX.

    To be a 3rd party recipient in the illegal gotten money of prostitution - is a felony - and Alex should have been charged with an accessory to her death. These cops dropped the ball and are shaming Shannan and blaming her, when they did not do their job.
    To transport a prostitute to a john is ILLEGAL and Pak transported her and took her money - when he was chasing her - believe me folks - he grabbed the money while beating her up.
     
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  11. Breaking Bad

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    This detective has left A LOT of important factual information
    out of his narrative.

    Shannan was in BUSINESS, and Michael was in BUSINESS.
    Michael was not a driver - he is a pimp.
    Shannan did not ever have a choice what or who she had sex with - it is up to her handler - her pimp. HE has to make money,
    he was a driver for SOMEONE ELSE

    There is a man that Pak had to answer to at the end of the night
    and share the proceeds of the money from Brewer to the man.
    This detective is leaving a LOT of FACTUAL information out of his narrative; that's all I will say.

    IF he has the ad for Shannan for that night, I'd be very interested in seeing it.

    Pak booked Shannan, therefore, HE is responsible for her life.
    and Pak knows it.

    HE was on the A&E movie saying that he could not find Shannan cuz the reeds were so high - very interesting choice of words.
     
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  12. Breaking Bad

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    How do you upload a m4v
    that is :14 seconds?
    I have Pak from the A&E movie saying the reeds
    were high and he couldn't find Shannan, and then
    he say's that's it.

    well folks - some business partner he is.
    why the frig didn't he call 9-1-1 FOR her
    and help her get to a hospital, if she was so
    drugged up?

    If she was so drugged up? how did she manage
    to RUN from Brewer's to Coletti's
    and then Coletti's to Brennans?

    She was running from a savage - a real jeckyl
    and hyde known as Michael Pak. He found her
    caught up with her
    punched the shyte out of her - got her phone
     
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    Michael states that he could not find her and that's it.

    Well, if he was YOUR business partner, wouldn't you
    want him to call 9-1-1 and get help for you?

    No folks, this psycho was beating the shyte out of her
    and she was running from HIM.

    He caught her

    WHY Hackett stepped in it, is a good question.
    But step in it he did, and it's a crying shame that that
    loser lawyer John Ray hasn't a clue about the business
    rules of organized crime or a criminal enterprise, because
    this is a real case that could be won

    UNLESS YOUR LAWYER IS LOSER LAWYER JOHN RAY
     
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    United States of America

    - against -


    Eduardo Cornego

    here is his actual case -
    https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/file/819806/download


    Cornejo faced up to ten years of incarceration, he was sentenced to 5 and a half years
    FOR TRANSPORTATING the girls. Pak transported Shannan and she died.



    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    Tuesday, February 2, 2016
    Recently-Terminated NYPD Officer Arrested For Interstate Transportation Of Prostitutes
    Former NYPD Officer Employed More Than Ten Prostitutes
    Earlier today, a complaint was unsealed in Brooklyn federal court charging Eduardo Cornejo, a former officer with the New York City Police Department (NYPD) with transporting women in interstate commerce to engage in prostitution.[1] Until his termination from the NYPD on January 15, 2016, Cornejo was an 11-year veteran of the NYPD who, at the time of the charged conduct, was on modified assignment and was, prior to that, assigned to the 79th Precinct in Brooklyn. Cornejo is scheduled to be arraigned at 2 p.m. today before United States Magistrate Judge Steven M. Gold at the U.S. Courthouse, 225 Cadman Plaza East, Brooklyn, New York.

    The charges were announced by Robert L. Capers, United States Attorney for the Eastern District of New York, Diego Rodriguez, Assistant Director-in-Charge of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), and William J. Bratton, Commissioner, NYPD.

    “As alleged, the defendant betrayed the trust of the residents of the city he swore to protect,” stated United States Attorney Capers. “Rather than seeking to eradicate crime from the streets of the city, the defendant promoted prostitution and profited from his exploitation of women.” Mr. Capers praised the joint investigative efforts of the FBI and the Internal Affairs Bureau of the NYPD.

    “Throughout his alleged criminal actions, Cornejo not only abused the public trust given to him as an NYPD officer, but he showed no human decency when he facilitated the exploitation of women for profit. Police officers, like all public servants, are held to a higher standard, and should not violate the very same laws they are supposed to enforce,” said FBI Assistant Director-in-Charge Rodriguez.

    “I commend our Internal Affairs Bureau which takes a proactive role in investigating serious misconduct among the ranks of the NYPD and works closely with prosecutors in building cases against those who violate the very laws that they have sworn to enforce,” said NYPD Commissioner Bratton.

    As detailed in the complaint, members of law enforcement observed Cornejo transporting at least ten different prostitutes he employed to motels throughout the New York metropolitan area, including parts of Long Island and New Jersey. Cornejo often engaged in this conduct directly after leaving his work with the NYPD.

    As further detailed in the complaint, pursuant to a lawfully authorized wiretap, law enforcement intercepted statements by Cornejo that showed his commission of the crime. For example, in one such statement Cornejo discussed the way he divides monetary proceeds with the prostitutes he employs and also stated that, if he were to stand outside a motel door with “a bunch of girls,” law enforcement would “know what’s up real quick.”


    The government’s case is being handled by the Office’s Public Integrity Section. Assistant United States Attorneys Alexander A. Solomon and Kevin Trowel are in charge of the prosecution.

    The Defendant:

    EDUARDO CORNEJO
    Age: 33
    E.D.N.Y. Docket No. 16-M-69 (MDG)
     
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    Hi everyone-

    After watching the A&E documentary, I've become obsessed with this case and reading posts on websleuths. For some reason, I've had a very hard time finding any video footage of Michael Pak or even seeing him appear in any of the previously mentioned documentaries. Does anyone have any links to any of his interviews? Much appreciated if you do. Thanks.
     
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    Windsor
    You state in this post that Mari Gilbert rec
    Windsor
    You state in this post that
    "MG has stated a dozen or more times how she received a call from
    someone claiming to be Hackett on May 2nd. She even asked him right to his facein his own house

    why he was denying calling her on the 2nd.


    can you please post these links to verify what you are saying.
     
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    WINDSOR

    you are obviously John RAy's biggest fan.
    YOu want to help him win?
    Then get the links to the interviews you are claiming Mari Gilbert
    stated that Hackett called her on May 2 - and you've helped John win his case.

    John doesn't have the faintest knowledge that H called MG
    on May 2 - but you do and your post was from BEFORE John Ray

    deposed Hackett, so - the question is
    why didn't John know since you are quoting Mari Gilbert
    and Mari Gilbert was Ray's client.
     
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    And again, in February 2013 you are stating that Hackett called Mari on May 2, 2010.

    Need the links to give to John, if you please.
     
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    WINDSOR Well-Known Member

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    Windsor
    You state in this post that
    "MG has stated a dozen or more times how she received a call from
    someone claiming to be Hackett on May 2nd. She even asked him right to his facein his own house

    why he was denying calling her on the 2nd.


    can you please post these links to verify what you are saying.



    Lady Gaga,
    As clarification, I believe that statement was in a post by ps149, not by me. I have no idea how many times MG stated such things.

     

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