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Discussion in 'Israel Keyes' started by bessie, Dec 5, 2012.

  1. seasons of wither

    seasons of wither New Member

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    According the FBI interviews that were posted on ADN (now gone), he drove up to his place in NY to check it out, then traveled to Vermont. He hadn't decided if he "was going to do anything there, yet" and was open to other locations. He got a fishing license and fished for a while and dug up the cache (I strongly believe some of them had trophies), he then "went out looking for someone". He went back to the hotel room and put the guns together and prepared to "take someone" He first decided to take someone from an apartment parking lot and hid and waiting in the wooded area of the complex. He was looking for a male, alone, with a generic car, with which he planned to rob multiple banks. It was raining that night, and as the potential victim got out the car, he ran, and IK missed him. So, he went back to the hotel and decided to "take" a couple. That's when he went walking, from the hotel, to look for a suitable house. According to the FBI timeline, he killed Bill and Lorraine on June 8, 2011, but his hotel reservation was for June 9th, 2011.
     
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  2. mjk2015

    mjk2015 Former Member

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    keyword trigger: trophies. i showcase my ordeal publicly and speak often about trophies (in my case, the offender wears trophy tattoos of me on his body). heinous.

    yes, keyes had to have been keeping trophies at least some of the time. in one of the FBI interview videos they questioned him about a ring and a necklace they found in the fire pit at his place in NY. he quickly denied that he had anything to do with the jewelry and tried to blame it on hunters or campers.

    hunters = no.
    campers = possible, but no.
    serial killer = yes.
     
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  3. mjk2015

    mjk2015 Former Member

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    it's not possible to email them. or, it wasn't as of one year ago (i tried). it does seem like something needs to happen since quite a few of us are willing and able to do the work, but the FBI has to accept and connect.
     
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    I'm thinking about filing a FOIA request. That way we can hopefully see what other files they have on this case.
     
  5. LesleyBright

    LesleyBright New Member

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    Hi... I'm new here, but am also interested in the LS case. Since we know where he went from Indiana, have we tried looking in NAMUS for remains found along that route that match her? Probably not the first one to have that idea, but would be worth looking into perhaps?
     
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  6. TKO15

    TKO15 New Member

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    Hi...totally new here. I have read a lot about this killer. He seemed to be very intelligent and used his geography and his stamina to throw off many investigators. I will add a Canadian woman's disappearance here. Portage La Prairie is a 3 hour drive to Grand Forks ND USA, This woman disappeared and her body has never been found. The RCMP believes it is a homicide. This is my 1st post, so lemme know if I did anything wrong here...thx But I checked the timeline of IK, and he did have free time after his arrival in Grand Forks. I read somewhere, he had a friend in Minny. There was no car rental or anything to go from in Grand Forks? extremely strange unless you know someone there. Anyway here is the Crimestoppers post for the missing woman from Manitoba.
    Amber Lynn McFarland | Manitoba Crime Stoppers

    I do not know how the timeline has tracked IK's border crossings but someone as cunning as him, to only show that many into BC from Alaska and no other Canadian province is suspicious. That is a vast country, where he could have easily travelled by purchasing a cheap car, renting or stealing. Thanks
     
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    Thanks for the link, I will read up on the case. So horrible that there are so many missing and murdered Canadian women, especially First Nations women.
     
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    This one could only be ruled out by WS'ers based on timeline, I'd wager, because this case has a few complicating circumstances: ex boyfriend was the last to see her if I'm understanding correctly, he says she got into a car with someone else as a means of leaving his house. So I guess she didn't technically disappear from a restaurant/bar. But it does sound like they searched his house and questioned him at length and no charges have come forward -- although we all know, knowing someone did something and proving it beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law, are two vastly different things.

    Here's the link where I got my info. Jul 2009: No charges for men held in disappearance
     
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    Yes, the missing women in Canada, that are Indigenous are extremely sad. I know the border between Canada/USA has been an easy conduit for killers in the past. I have no reason to believe it will change?
     
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  11. TKO15

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    I am with you on this case as well, I believe the Police have their target or targets set on who has done this...but they need more evidence. The uncanny thing with IK, is that timeline...and no car or any showings to Grand Forks, why Grand Forks? My assumption on his killings, his places have always meant to draw police away from a crime? The further he travelled, I believe he thought would cover for his alibi. That North Dakota link is just so suspicious, just because he then is in PHX, days later? So did he kill in ND? in Canada? why no car rental? no hotel? Thanks for responding.
     

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