GUILTY MN - George Floyd, 46, died in custody, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #19 - Chauvin Jury Deliberations #2

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    I don't think it's fair to say "Chauvin supporters". I watched every minute of this trial, and every second of that video (and others). I can think something is "morally wrong" and it's still not "legally wrong". JMO
     
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    I wonder how it feels to be such a despicable person that even leaders of countries across the pond celebrate your incarceration and comment on it.
     
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    Accompanied by people who had been trained just weeks earlier and also carried on- you can blame one person- or question why he behaved like this and why new recruits also behaved like this- it’s endemic, they denied it in court, but the evidence is there that they did train people to react like that. Those 4 cops didn’t receive the same initial training, and if we give them the get out clause of they were newly qualified and intimidated- then why on earth do your police not include how to whistle blow in basic training???????
     
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    I completely agree. The state proved the case. The elements were all proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
     
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    Darnella is so incredibly brave <3

    Teen Who Filmed George Floyd's Death Reacts to Guilty Chauvin Verdict.

    17-year-old Darnella Frazier just reacted to the news Chauvin was found guilty on all 3 counts, and now faces a max sentence of 40 years. She says, "I just cried so hardThis last hour my heart was beating so fast, I was so anxious, anxiety bussing through the roof. But to know GUILTY ON ALL 3 CHARGES !!! THANK YOU GOD THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOUGeorge Floyd we did it!!❤️❤️❤️❤️justice has been served"
     
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    SouthAussie Where sunbeams shine

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    Former President Barack Obama said that today “a jury in Minneapolis did the right thing”.

    “But if we’re being honest with ourselves, we know that true justice is about much more than a single verdict,” he said.

    World reacts with shock to George Floyd verdict
     
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    SouthAussie Where sunbeams shine

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    But the new recruits did not act the same. One of them reminded Chauvin twice about the recovery position, the other one took George's pulse twice. They removed themselves from George's unconscious body. One of them performed CPR in the ambulance.

    They had also cancelled the call for backup once they worked out how to deal with their problem, and the park police person was there to watch the other car.

    They deferred to the training officer, the senior officer who came to the scene even though the call for backup was cancelled.
     
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    No one ever said an opinion has to be popular! It's an opinion.

    But I don't get the scapegoat thing. Either he did it or he didn't.

    If people kept speeding down my street, and I couldn't pull out of my driveway---neither could my neighbors, and we all started writing letters to the editor, showing up at council meetings, picketing the local police saying: Stop The Speeders! Stop the Speeders!

    And then, at last, the police came to my street and picked off a person exceeding the speed limit...

    Is that person a scape goat? Taking one for those who came before them? I don't think so. It that person was speeding, that person was speeding. They have to save their story for the judge, and the judge does not care how mad people on my street were because others have gotten away with speeding in the past.

    The speeder was either speeding or was not.

    The defendant either murdered or did not.
     
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    Jesse Jackson speaking now.

    Eta: Governor of Minnesota Tim Waltz speaking now:
    “....the chilling truth becomes apparent...”

    *eta2-Note: good speech, need transcript


     
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    Yet the outcome was the outcome- fairly sure if I was with three of my colleagues and we disagreed with one person we could argue our case
     
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    I've wondered how Chauvin could even live with himself.
     
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    Bless her heart! She’s the one who got this verdict by recording that video. I hope that these guilties help her somehow move forward and see that although she couldn’t pull Chauvin off of George to save him, she got him justice.
     
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    If a police car is speeding in response to a call and hit a person are they guilty or not?
     
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    Yes, they still have to take care.
     
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    What does that have to do with scapegoats? I'm honestly confused.
     
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    SouthAussie Where sunbeams shine

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    Yes, though in the military and in the police forces they are taught to defer to their senior officers. This is generally essential in times of crisis, when rapid response is important.
    If there are complaints, they happen afterwards.
     
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    Shaddow Be the change that you wish to see in the world

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    President Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris are speaking now.
     
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