MN - George Floyd, 46, died in police custody, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #5 - Chauvin Trial Day 2

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    Sillybilly Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    This thread is to discuss the case of George Floyd. It is not a thread to discuss racism in general.

    Unless your post relates to this case specifically, it is off topic and will be removed.
     
  3. Niner

    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    @JerseyGirl - going to post this here - and if a new thread for today's trial - please move it over! TIA!

    Tuesday, March 30th:
    *Trial continues (Day 2) (@ 9:30am CT) - MN – George Perry Floyd, Jr. (46) (May 25, 2020, Minneapolis, arrested for forgery & killed in police custody) - *Derek Michael Chauvin (44/now 45) police officer who held his knee on Floyd’s neck for 8 minutes & 46 seconds (Note: on 10/14/20 this has been changed to 9 minutes & 30 seconds) (& non responsive for 2 minutes & 53 seconds before officer took his knee off his neck; from 8:19pm to 8:28pm his knee was on Floyd’s neck; has been fired (5/26/20) & arrested & charged (5/29/20) with 3rd degree murder & 2nd degree manslaughter. Charges changed (6/3/20) to 2nd degree murder-unintentional-while committing a felony, 3rd degree murder-perpetrating eminently dangerous act (3rd degree charge was dismissed on 10/22/20 & reinstated on 3/11/21) & evincing depraved mind & 2nd degree manslaughter-culpable negligence creating unreasonable risk. $500K bond, reset (6/8/20) @ $1.25M & $1M with conditions. Posted non-cash $1M bond (10/7/20) & has been released from jail.
    Trial began on 3/8/21 with jury selection. Jury selection ran through March 23, 2021. Trial with opening statements & the commencement of the State’s case began on March 29, 2021. Experts anticipate the trial could last 2-4 weeks. Jurors: 12 & 2 alternates (9 women & 5 men). Jurors will be sequestered during deliberations. None of the other officers will be testifying at Chauvin’s trial.
    Jurors’ info reference post #6 here:
    MN - George Floyd, 46, died in police custody, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #4 - Trial Day 1

    Bond conditions & court info & jury selection (3/9 thru 3/23) from 12/19/20 thru 3/23/21 reference post #6 here:
    MN - George Floyd, 46, died in police custody, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #4 - Trial Day 1

    3/29/21 Monday, Trial Day 1: All 14 jurors showed up. #15 is being let go. Parties will argue a state motion filed late Friday about what can be said opening statements about Floyd's 'intent.' Jurors was brought in around 9:30am. Judge gave them instructions. Jerry Blackwell, special prosecutor gave opening statements for the State & Eric Nelson for the defense. Blackwell showed the 9 minutes of Floyd's arrest to jurors. Blackwell showed jurors this screenshot explaining who each bystander is & what they will testify to. Blackwell - No evidence that Floyd knew the $20 was counterfeit. Eric Nelson: the evidence will show Mr. Floyd died from a bad heart, drugs & other things. You will find Mr. Chauvin not guilty.
    State witnesses questions asked by Prosecutor Matthew Frank. 1) Jena Scurry, 911 dispatcher & who alerted a supervisor that something was awry in the incident. Played 911 dispatch call for jurors. Prosecution played some CCTV video from elevated city security cameras directly across from Cup Foods. Exhibit #11 is basically the vantage looking down from the Speedway signage at 38/Chicago intersection. Jurors watched CCTV footage of the scene. Officers try to place Floyd in the driver's side backseat. While trying to pull him through from the passenger backseat, during the struggle, Floyd ends up hanging part way out so officers pull him out to the street. Cross examined by Nelson. Questions by Pro Steve Schleischer: 2) Alisha Mariee Oyler, worked at Speedway gas station. She took seven cell phone videos. 3) Donald Wynn Williams II. Was a bystander & has a place about a block away from Cup Foods, worked in private security & a bouncer & a MMA fighter. The media center lost wifi, all feeds coming out of there were lost. The judge adjourned court for the day stating he needed to give the public access. Court done for the day. Williams will be back on the witness stand at 9:30am. Trial continues on 3/30/21.

    *Charged (7/22/20) with 6 counts of aiding & abetting taxes-false or fraudulent returns-filed with commissioner & 3 counts aiding & abetting taxes-failure to file return, report, document. – Omnibus hearing on 6/30/21.
     
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    The second day of Derek Chauvin's trial in George Floyd's death is set to begin Tuesday with further questioning of a professional mixed martial arts fighter who stumbled onto the scene of the 46-year-old Black man's final moments.

    Chauvin could be convicted of all, some, or none of the charges. Minnesota's sentencing guidelines recommend about 12.5 years in prison for each murder charge and about four years for the manslaughter charge.

    Derek Chauvin trial to continue with MMA fighter who watched George Floyd's death - CNN
     
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  6. dixiegirl1035

    dixiegirl1035 I will do it, but I won't like it

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    Lane, his partner Kueng, and Chauvin knew he didn't have a pulse. (Lane's partner Kueng checks at 18:03 and says "I can't find one"..and Lane and his partner then get off of GF at that time...and other times in video below they check) EMT knew he didn't have a pulse. That's the first thing they did when on EMS got on scene as shown in video below toward the end. (Can be seen more clearly on the bystander video which we've seen)

    The reason they loaded and left so quickly, and told them they were going to a few blocks away was because at 20:15 it was said by LE "lets' get him out of here", probably due to the gathering crowd MOO. The video posted upthread toward the end shows Lane in the ambulance and what was done to finally give mechanical compressions at 59:13:00. It also shows that as Lane leaves, he comes back to the ambulance and the mechanical compressions that were going on had ended at 1:04:35.

    MOO

    WARNING - VERY UPSETTING AND GRAPHIC - ROLL AND SCROLL IF YOU DON'T WANT TO VIEW

     
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    Blondiexoxo Studying Forensic Psychology BSc hons

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    When someone says they can’t breathe whilst you have your knee on their neck you move it and restrain in another way. If GF was already handcuffed why the need for such brutal force? When a grown man is pleading for his mother and telling you he’s going to die, and you keep your knee in place applying pressure to his neck while he is completely sandwiched between your knee and the ground, if someone has to repeat 27 times that they can’t breathe and you do NOTHING you are a murderer, plain and simple. DC intended to cause harm because he was warned no less than 27 times by George himself and who knows how many times by onlookers that he was going to kill him if he didn’t stop. Yet he carried on, in an act of defiance and a power trip. I don’t care whether GF had drugs in his system or a fake $20, he did not deserve to die in such an inhumane way.
     
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  8. Shelby1

    Shelby1 Cancer Sucks

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    Good morning everyone
     
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  9. dixiegirl1035

    dixiegirl1035 I will do it, but I won't like it

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    Feed is live. We have the seal... Judge said 9:30 central time start today. (and per Niner above too) That's about an hour from now, but they again may start a few minutes early if jurors are there?
     
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    Yes, I have no doubt they knew how dangerous that maneuver was and Chauvin knew the risk he was taking. The mayor banned it in 2019, but the union police chief argued that it was necessary and he would keep training officers who wanted training.

    There is a video in an earlier thread showing the proper way to use the maneuver (although it's now banned) and it shows the officer kneeling on the suspects neck for just seconds, then they roll him over and stand him up immediately. There's no reason they could not have done that, especially since Floyd was already handcuffed.

    Chauvin made a conscious decision to continue his actions, knowing full well he was causing harm.
     
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    I did want to say

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    @Chelly for posting the tweets! Saved me a TON of time this morning! :)
     
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    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    Cathy Russon
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    #DerekChauvinTrial - Today is day 2 in the trial of the former police charged in the death of #GeorgeFloyd. Scene witness/MMA fighter Donald Williams will continue his testimony this morning at 9:30 CT/10:30 ET.

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    Each morning of the trial the judge has set aside 9 am CT/10 am ET for any motions/issues with attorneys. Jury reports each day at 9:15 CT/10:15 ET and testimony begins 9:30 am CT/10:30 am ET.

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    Earlier than usual motion hearing this morning regarding filming minor witnesses that will testify today. State filed a motion to not only have no video but to also have no audio. Starts at 8:30 CT/9:30 ET. @LawCrimeNetwork
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    Paul Blume
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    We're getting a slightly early start at #DerekChauvinTrial Day 2. Judge Cahill has set an 8:30am motions hearing on an issue of whether some state witnesses who are considered minors will be entitled to some privacy protections when they testify in open court today. @FOX9


    20m
    One of the minor witnesses is the person that filmed the now viral video. She was a minor at the time. Will we get to hear her testimony? The judge will rule this morning. She's pictured in the royal blue pants.

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    link: https://twitter.com/cathyrusson
     
  13. dixiegirl1035

    dixiegirl1035 I will do it, but I won't like it

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    On the record 5 minutes ago with judge, and discussing the motions of minors that they don't want to be heard or seen, and want them to be exempt from requirement. State filed this motion that minors at the time are exempt from audio and video both. And if court demands that they use audio, do without their name... or at least no last name/use initials.

    Media coalition Rep suggests that when introduced to have the audio off when names are said. On the specific female " DF " witness, the girl who had the viral video is now no longer a minor. She has no problem with ID'ing herself.

    (Court already said no video is OK, but State motion wants audio nixed for 4 of the witnesses they plan on having) 2 of the 4 were minors at the time, but are now adults.

    Judge RULES ... ID of ALL FOUR of them will be off audio. Then audio comes back on.. can be referred to as first name. He will continue to suppress all 4 for video feed. He said that media will hear their names (assume that media will honor not publishing names, although judge didn't admonish them not to)

    He talked about the power surge problem to the server yesterday as to why they ended early. (Feed to family upstairs knocked out). Media has kindly offered up a backup to the court so this doesn't happen again, court accepted the offer. :D

    We are now again in recess. Judge said back at 9:15 or 9:30 (he was iffy) central time.
     
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    TIA to all you lovely peeps providing links and tweets.
     
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    Cathy Russon
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    #DerekChauvinTrial - Media coalition spokesperson addressing the judge asking to allow audio at the least for minor witnesses saying it's important for public access. She agrees using initials or first names only.

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    19m
    Media attorney tells the judge she doubts Darnella Frazier, the person that took the viral video, is requesting to remain anonymous as she's done plenty of media/social media posting plus she has now turned 18.

    18m
    Judge denies state's motion and will allow audio broadcast of minor witnesses, he says with one exception, that when they state and spell their names, that will be no audio.


    link: https://twitter.com/cathyrusson
     
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    Video linked above by dixie was really tough to watch, however I felt it important for me to view. Heartbreaking.......
     
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    FYI for those of you watching HLN and multitasking they will hit pause at commercial breaks so you don't miss any testimony. Per HLN.
     
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    Shaddow Be the change that you wish to see in the world

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    Mr. Williams 911 phone call was powerful.
     
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    I've been watching this one: It's pretty good.




    and Cathy isn't tweeting much.... but I keep looking over there! :)
     
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    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    Cathy Russon
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    #DerekChauvinTrial - Scene witness/MMA fighter Donald Williams is back on the stand under direct examination.

    Williams.jpg



    link: https://twitter.com/cathyrusson


    found another tweeter...

    Paul Blume
    @PaulBlume_FOX9
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    TESTIMONY RESUMES: Donald Williams was just asked under direct examination if either he or any other bystanders threatened the safety of police at scene of #GeorgeFloyd deadly arrest. He says, no one did. Remember, defense argues that crowd was a "threat." #DerekChauvinTrial


    5m
    Eric Nelson stepping up to cross examine Donald Williams, the MMA fighter who called out #DerekChauvin chokehold at the scene of the deadly arrest. Williams has taken several deep breaths here, seems like testifying over the last 2 days has taken a toll on him.

    link: https://twitter.com/PaulBlume_FOX9/status/1376882751173849096
     
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