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Maybe it's not so relevant, the whole computer activity, but I hate if people don't tell the truth and LE doesn't act upon that. So my conclusion is, if Adam speaks the truth, after reading this part of the transcript that either Josh's dad or Josh's uncle (although the latter specifically denied to have used it) but who seems to have accessed in the mids of it his E-mail. So who is lying?Really great post and I think this is EXACTLY where we need to be focusing if we're going to uncover the mystery. Yes, there are two Greg's. The Josh Newville podcast says and I quote:
"Josh Newville: One of the things on the Unsolved Mysteries episode, there is a comment and I was really surprised to hear law enforcement tell the television show this, because as far as I'm aware, as far as Justin's aware, as far as Josh's parents are aware, no one's ever heard this before, but apparently, one of Josh's roommates told law enforcement that the night before Josh's disappearance, so this would be Friday night, November 8, that Josh and Nick had a fight about Katie that they overheard.
Olga Zenteno: I also have never, ever, ever during this whole entire time heard anything like that. I don't know who that roommate is. That just-
Josh Newville: Josh had five roommates. I've talked to both of the Adams. I've talked to John. The only roommate I haven't talked to is Greg and this is not the Greg that he went to the party with that night, a different Greg" (Source: here)
So there's two Adam's and two Greg's. One of the Greg's didn't go to the party, so we can probably exclude him for now. The Greg who went to the party was Worden, you're correct. So the question is: did both Adam's go to the poker party?
Josh Newville says he spoke to a "John". I've not heard a "John" be mentioned anywhere before.
Newville also says: "There were some roommates, including the roommate that people, for a long time, thought deleted stuff from Josh's computer because he was the one that gave his login information, username and password to Josh's dad and uncle to get on the computer while they were in the dorm. For a long while, people thought that he was the one because it was his username that had created the network account in which subsequently, someone then took an Internet Washer to the computer. A lot of people thought it was him and law enforcement didn't even interview him, it sounds like, until 2010."
Which would mean I was wrong by thinking Adam used the washer, and it sounds like in 2010 Adam was cleared of using the wahsher.
Simply Vanished Season 1, Episode 3
Date of Release: July 11, 2022
Transcript:
Justin Tholl: During that timeframe, they also visited the Internet Washer site. They looked at getting a trial version. And then, there was more activity using webmail.
Josh Newville: Wait, someone logged in the middle of all of this? Someone accessed their webmail?
Justin Tholl: Their webmail, yeah, or email.
Josh Newville: In terms of the order of events, did the webmail happen at the beginning or in the middle?
Justin Tholl: In the middle. There is even two instances where Internet Washer site was access to. So, first, there was the initial Amber Alert, America's most wanted, Internet Washer trial, and then it jumped back to more activity, webmail.
Josh Newville: And another program that was installed was some zip program, right?
Justin Tholl: Yeah. It's an early version of, if you remember, WinZip back in the day. That was the thing. It was software that would package up files specifically and try to compress them in a more manageable file size.
Josh Newville: So, basically you could take lots of information and put it onto a thumb drive, right?
Justin Tholl: Exactly.
Josh Newville: Do we know whether a thumb drive or any other device was used around the same time as that zip program was used?
Justin Tholl: We do. We can see a USB device being used in that. And we'd have no idea which files they took. Whether those files were deleted or not, they could still be on the computer. There's just no way of knowing what they took, or if anything was took at all. But they didn't use Josh's account on his computer. They had to use... they had to create their own account.
Josh Newville: And that user that was created was one of Josh's roommates, right?
Justin Tholl: Yep.
Josh Newville: And you've talked to that roommate at least in writing briefly, right?
Justin Tholl: Correct.
Josh Newville: And that roommate has denied ever touching Josh's computer. Is that correct?
Justin Tholl: That is correct.
Josh Newville: And their explanation is that they gave the username and password to someone else who was using Josh's computer in the days following his disappearance, right?
Simply Vanished | S1 E3 Terms of Service
Season 1 (Joshua Guimond), Episode 3 ("Terms of Service") of Simply Vanished, published July 11, 2022. Simply Vanished is an investigative podcast about unsolved missing person cases.
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