NOTGUILTY MN - Philando Castile, 32, shot by police officer, 6 July 2016 #1

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  1. sds71

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  2. Gardenista

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    Completely disagree. Police are allowed to lie to suspects in an investigation.
     
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    The OP who I was replying to, called for more openness and transparency. He was talking about the citizen being transparent about having a gun.

    I'm saying that if you're going to call for that, it's unfair in our free and democratic society to expect openness from one side and not the other.

    What they're allowed to do is just part of the story. What they should do is another part. Remember LE are public servants. They work for us, not vice versa. There is no good justification for the officer to hide why he stopped them. After asking PC to keep his hands on the wheel, he could have advised him of the robbery suspects. There would have been no problem mentioning the match on race and dreadlocks. At least at that point PC could have said to himself, this cop thinks I might have committed armed robbery... I better be real careful here.


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    I cannot speak for Minnesota, but my son has a concealed weapons permit for our state. If stopped he is required to immediately tell them he has a concealed weapons permit and he is caring his gun. No matter if the gun is in the car or on his person. When he signed for his permit that is one of the things he had sign to say he understood it was part of obligation.
    He was also taught in the class to never reach for the gun.
     
  6. Everyday Grace

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    I guess I should have been clearer.

    I was referring to lack of after-the-fact disclosure by law enforcement and public officials.

    Disclosure of basic facts, specifically the number of shots fired in this case.
     
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    Oh, totally different track than the one I was on. Agree with you. Hopefully more disclosure will come this week.


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  8. Everyday Grace

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    Um, no, she wasn't.

    But thanks, anyways.

    Later y'all.
     
  9. Everyday Grace

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    I hope you're right. :)
     
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    One of the reasons why information is kept from the public is for future prosecution. I sure would like to know everything that LE knows right now, but I understand the need. to complete the investigation first. Anything they release before all interviews and investigations are complete can have an effect on a successful prosecution.
     
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    There is the excellent point about the officer at the other window. Hm
     
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    This to me is a perfect example of why information is not released. There may be legitimate reasons why she has changed her story. She can explain in court. Let's say though the day before her story changed it was splashed all over the news that there were six shots fired. The next day she changes her story to the six shots. The defense team in a trial can use that and put it into the juries head that the only reason why she changed her story was because she saw the story that law enforcement said six shots and she changed her story to match the evidence. Even if that isn't true why she changed her story they can plant that seed and make a juror believe if she lied about that then she has lied about everything. IMO
     
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    As far as the shots go, who would be counting under those circumsatances I am sure the whole thing was surreal.
     
  14. MzOpinion8d

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    She's talking about the cop's gun being out. He has the gun pointed at Castile e even after he fatally wounded him, and keeps threatening her to keep her hands where he can see them. If she had moved the cop may have shot her, too.
     
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    No need to worry about the ones who were arrested. Jail support is provided; attorneys and bail money. It's all part of the scheme.
     
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    Looks like LE targeted those of a certain race.
     
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    Lol, those are the white allies. Arrest volunteers. Kind of like a badge.
     
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