GUILTY MO - Bobbi Jo Stinnett, 23, slain, fetus stolen, Skidmore, 16 Dec 2004

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  1. imstilla.grandma

    imstilla.grandma Believer of Miracles

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    Judge Patrick Hanlon granted the stay late Monday, citing the need to determine Montgomery's mental competence, reported the Topeka Capital-Journal. Lisa Montgomery faced execution Tuesday at the Federal Correctional Complex in Terre Haute, Indiana, just eight days before President-elect Joe Biden, an opponent of the federal death penalty, takes office.
    Execution of only woman on US death row for killing woman, cutting baby from womb halted
     
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    imstilla.grandma Believer of Miracles

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    The filing is over 7,000 pages, so it wouldn't be appropriate it to attach here, but there are multiple reports from many people detailing the abuse this child was subjected to - it is extensive and extreme. Particularly disturbing is her own mother's account of catching her husband with a very, very young Lisa. In addition, the documentation of those adults that knew or suspected the abuse is vast - teachers, social workers, family members, etc. No one removed her from the home - it is appalling.
    When this type of abuse is perpetuated on a child - especially at young ages - the damage is extensive - it can manifest itself is different ways, but it always has major consequences.

    It may be because I am a teacher and I have, unfortunately, had to report child abuse cases. But, I have some idea of what it takes for a child to work up the courage to tell what is happening. For an adult - any adult - to ignore what that child tells and do nothing? It is almost beyond my understanding.
     
  5. Marg from Oz

    Marg from Oz Well-Known Member

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    If she has been properly medicated all the time she has been incarcerated then she may be competent now. But was she competent when she committed the act? That should be the question.. not how she is now. MOO
     
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    No, I don't take the word of a convicted murder and proven pathological liar at face value, sorry.

    Also I never said lying about a pregnancy is a crime, I said its manipulative behavior that points away from someone being a domestic violence victim. Gaslighting a partner in such a manner is actually more characteristic of an abuser.
     
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    She is no longer a child. She stole a child from her mother.

    I've actually read the 199 page appeal and much of the psychological report for the defense and while there is no doubt Lisa had a terrible home life and should have been removed from that environment, it was not to the extreme she's now claiming. I'm finding a lot of discrepancies and outright lies.
     
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    Totally agree! And IMO Lisa was very much competent when she committed this cold, calculated, very premeditated and brutal murder. That's all that should matter. Being in solitary confinement waiting for the needle will make anyone insane, especially a person constantly being fed the narrative that they are the victim of a grave injustice.
     
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    And don't forget the baloney sandwiches.

    I say let her live her life in prison, what REAL difference will it make as long as she will never walk among us again?
     
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    My thoughts exactly. Her lawyers state that she has lost touch with reality and therefore isn’t competent to be executed. If she is as mentally ill as they claim, has she been on medication for the condition the entire time she’s been incarcerated? I would think so. Was a doctor monitoring her condition? She was competent at trial, that is the legal issue. Jmo
     
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    Many killers on death row have been through horrible abuse as children. I have been saddened when hearing their stories. But if they had a fair trial... jmo
     
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    IMO, Montgomery deserves to be executed. She planned that murder. She knew exactly what she was doing and what she wanted. It is not like she saw a heavily pregnant women in the street or in the store and tackled her and cut her abdomen open to take the baby. Be gone Montgomery.
     
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    A judge/ jury decided her guilt based on the evidence presented. They also decided her sentence. Carry it out. Bobbi’s mom found her own daughter sliced up laying in pools of blood. And the baby gone. Jmo
     
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    she said she looked like her stomach exploded. Her cell phone that she called 911 with was dripping with blood when authorities arrived on the scene, poor mama was trying to do CPR and save her life. This crime was a horror. Lisa is a monster.
     
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    Do you have any credentials that allow you to make that judgment? Your opinion?
     
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    For many years, I thought this was an open-and-shut case calling for the death penalty, until I found out about Lisa Montgomery's past. She should not be executed, and shouldn't be in prison, either; she belongs in a mental institution.

    (I felt the same way about Aileen Wuornos.)
     
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    yes, my opinion...thats what IMO means.
     
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    SCOTUS voted 6-3 to lift the stay. The execution will likely go forward.
     
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    As of 5 minutes ago, she was being escorted to the death chamber. Press is in the media center and the last statement was that there would be no comment from Bobbi Jo Stinnett's family.
     
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    The execution of Lisa Montgomery has taken place. Reports by witnesses and media will be forthcoming.
     
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