MO - Lisa Irwin, 10 months, Kansas City, 4 Oct 2011 - #5

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  1. SilkySifaka

    SilkySifaka Active Member

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    That is what blew my mind last night. Whether or not the parents had stopped cooperating, the only result of the presser by Young is to turn off people who might help find little Lisa.

    If there weren't posters going up before, can you imagine now? "why bother, she is dead, the parents did it" is the underlying feeling. or "police say parents aren't cooperating , its a waste of time"

    People make extra efforts to help but not if LE implies its useless to do so.
     


  2. chieftess

    chieftess New Member

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    The thing I find odd, is that the mother should actually have two alibi witnesses...the children?
    I understand wanting to protect the two boys, but wouldn't it be easy to verify at least part of mom's story by questioning them?
     
  3. Shelby1

    Shelby1 Cancer Sucks

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    Also in the article (I realize it's a small tidbit) the son that was sleeping with mom also had a stray kitten he found earlier that day sleeping with them.
     
  4. SilkySifaka

    SilkySifaka Active Member

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  5. JeannaT

    JeannaT Former Member

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    I agree, but they were asleep too apparently when all this happened. So unlike the dad, who had people around him who were awake, there was no one awake in the home to verify her story.
     
  6. davehead21

    davehead21 Well-Known Member

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    CHICANA Well-Known Member

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    Lets not forget there are other children involved. If you feel you're being accused of neglect or worse, an attorney might be necessary to make sure you retain custody of your other children.
     
  8. In da Middle

    In da Middle of everything

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    I somewhat agree with this, but they are doing national media. What a great tool to get her story out further! I do think they may have just needed a break - I would have. LE may have messed up in stating they are no longer cooperating because now they might just do that when they really didn't plan to.

    I just do not think I could have formed a coherent sentence after all they have been through. I sure would not have been there after a while without representation guilty or innocent to guide me through.
     
  9. chieftess

    chieftess New Member

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    I'm just happy to hear I'm not dreaming or losing my mind, lol!
    I seem to remember it being Wednesday, but I'm not certain.
     
  10. cindysue

    cindysue New Member

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    I watched the video and i think the mom is innocent. But as far as the floorplan ,if it is correct and the babys room is so close , the mother has to be a sound sleeper. Im just guessing here from experience that if you have a small child that is sick in another room you would probably keep your door open and the babys door open to hear if she gets worse. She is also apparently very trusting to sleep with windows open and doors open, especially when she is home alone for the first time. I would think on this night of all nights she would be more alert than any other night..but thats all assumption on my part ,,however if the neighbors dog was let out so that it didnt bark ,that tells us that they had a well thought out plan for this, also if this person did let out the dog then why didnt the dog attack them.? This could have been someone in the neighborhood or someone who casted the neighborhood . Someone who wasnt afraid to be seen around or in the house as they came in and walked around in the lighted house very very close to the parents bedroom. Also seems that they waited til the husband had his first night of work...This doesnt seem random at all IMO..
     
  11. liltexans

    liltexans Retired WS Staff

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    Okay, so it was dad's first night at this job.

    The family dog may have disappeared that day/night.

    Baby Lisa is ill and disappears and one son found and kept a new kitten that day.

    Quite a number of changes in family pattern happened in just one day/night.
     
  12. In da Middle

    In da Middle of everything

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    Exactly!!
     
  13. nursebeeme

    nursebeeme Registered User

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  14. chasing.halos

    chasing.halos May today be the day. Justice for Abby & Libby

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    It was not their dog. A neighbor's dog supposedly went missing that night and then came back.
     
  15. ~n/t~

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    Yeah I noticed that too but blew it off as being unimportant to the case. Do you think it has relevance? The only thing I can think of is kittens are usually very active at night.....well I should say mine was. :innocent:

    Was it confirmed if they had a dog?
     
  16. nursebeeme

    nursebeeme Registered User

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    did you see the link that dave posted up stream?

    was dad's first night shift
     
  17. cluciano63

    cluciano63 Well-Known Member

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    I believe LE has reasons for coming forward as they did last night. I think they have some evidence or info that they are not ready to release. Just my opinion, as I have no reason to believe this LE is unprofessional or narrow-minded. Maybe I will be proven wrong.
     
  18. Shelby1

    Shelby1 Cancer Sucks

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    originally posted by NurseBeeMe:


    http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/miss...olice-14688735

    says that the night Lisa vanished was first night the father had ever worked a night shift
     
  19. Veritas

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    4am seems like a strange time for a shift end. Don't most swing shifts end at midnight or 2 am? Do we have verification from the employer?
     
  20. liltexans

    liltexans Retired WS Staff

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    He got home at 4 am, right? His shift probably ended earlier and then he had to drive home. Do we know how long his commute was?
     
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