MO - Lisa Irwin, 10 mos, Kansas City, 4 Oct 2011

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  1. Jewels53

    Jewels53 Well-Known Member

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    From that clip it says Lisa is 9 yrs old and she wouldn't be 9 until I believe November of this year. She was 9 months when she was gone almost 10 and I believe she was born in November. I just looked and her BD is 11/11/2010.

    I don't think anyone is really for Lisa!

    jmo imo moo
     
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    I agree with you, madamx.
     
    watergirl62, Apr 30, 2020
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    redheadedgal, Jul 17, 2020
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    redheadedgal, Jul 17, 2020
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  5. norest4thewicked

    norest4thewicked True Crime Writer

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    I'm shocked that this case hasn't been solved. I still think that it may be solved one day (either through Jeremy talking or one of the boys remembering something), but it sure isn't easy to wait. :(
     
    norest4thewicked, Jul 19, 2020
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    LietKynes "Law is the ultimate science" Liet Kynes

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    bbm
    Agreed !
    Fwiw; I don't think anyone walked into that house and took her.
     
    LietKynes, Jul 19, 2020
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  7. Jewels53

    Jewels53 Well-Known Member

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    Where is Lisa? It will be 9 years next month. Someone needs to speak up. jmo
     
    Jewels53, Sep 9, 2020
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    Start with the mom.
     
    Cottonstar, Sep 9, 2020
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  9. norest4thewicked

    norest4thewicked True Crime Writer

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    I strongly believe that she was put into the river by her house. A small body like that will surely be gone by now. :(
     
    norest4thewicked, Sep 24, 2020
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    Jewels53 Well-Known Member

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    Jewels53, Oct 5, 2020
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    HLN will air an episode of 'Real Life Nightmare' featuring Lisa's case this Sunday at 10EST.
     
    askfornina, Nov 25, 2020
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    Can’t wait to see this.
     
    ssnva1, Nov 28, 2020
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  13. Cortne

    Cortne Well-Known Member

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    Still praying for Lisa and her family.
     
    Cortne, Nov 30, 2020
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    Cottonstar Well-Known Member

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    Why is it so hard to attain the 911 call? Why has it never been released by police?
     
    Cottonstar, Dec 2, 2020
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  15. norest4thewicked

    norest4thewicked True Crime Writer

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    Unless I am completely losing my mind, I remember hearing the 911 call. Are we sure it wasn't released?
     
    norest4thewicked, Dec 2, 2020
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    I’ve never seen or heard it.
     
    Cottonstar, Dec 2, 2020
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    RANCH Well-Known Member

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    Here is the Missouri statute that covers 911 calls.

      610.150. "911" telephone reports inaccessible, exceptions. — Except as provided by this section, any information acquired by a law enforcement agency or a first responder agency by way of a complaint or report of a crime made by telephone contact using the emergency number, "911", shall be inaccessible to the general public. However, information consisting of the date, time, specific location and immediate facts and circumstances surrounding the initial report of the crime or incident shall be considered to be an incident report and subject to section 610.100. Any closed records pursuant to this section shall be available upon request by law enforcement agencies or the division of workers' compensation or pursuant to a valid court order authorizing disclosure upon motion and good cause shown.

    610.150
     
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    Yes. Thank you for this. This just affirms the reasoning I had previously surmised. In other words, it’s a bunch of baloney. Transparency needs to be a focal point of any police reform in this country. Too many law enforcement agencies hide information from the general public underneath the “It’s an open case” umbrella. Many law enforcement agencies release the 911 call during the open investigation, even when they are not required to do so. With this case being almost a decade old, a good portion of the case file, including the 911 call, should be released to the public. Not doing so actually hinders the investigation and can lead to distrust and possible corruption. There is no viable reason for the 911 call not to be released in this case.
     
    Cottonstar, Dec 2, 2020
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    Cadaver dogs almost never get it wrong...could they have been wrong here? The offender would have to know the husband was working night shift and the mother was drunk. Who would that be? The neighbour. That certainly wasn't discussed much on real life nightmare.
     
    Panniniclaus, Dec 7, 2020
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    The HRD dog could have been right in alerting but the conclusion that a dead human was present could be wrong.

    Why would the kidnapper have to know all of theses details in advance? JMO
     
    RANCH, Dec 7, 2020
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