MO MO - Nevada, WhtMale Skeletal UP8023, 26-36, .38 caliber slug, Jan'00

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  1. SI-LOCAL

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    Missouri State Highway Patrol news release on Sept 14th, 2010:

    http://notes.mshp.dps.mo.gov/si01/si01p001.nsf

    John Doe Reconstruction Image:(may have to cut and paste or there is a link to the image in the MSHP news release)

    http://notes.mshp.dps.mo.gov/si01/si01p001.nsf/9300de8f24f618a68625729800536892/a16214be75b2702b8625779e006cad1b/$FILE/John%20Doe%20Reconstruction%20Image.JPG

    I could not find another thread devoted to this UID. I apologize in advance if there is one already and I missed it.

    I looked for this UID in the DOE network and NAMUS. I couldn't find this particular UID in either database. I sent an email to the MSHP inquiring if they could possibly submit the case to both databases.

    This is the first thread I've started, I hope I did it right!
     
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    Its frustrating because they did not have his estimate height and weight, hair color. I guess there was no clothes either....

    Well, you did good. :dance: I'll see if I can find something tonight.
     
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    I'm not sure how to attach the photo I have in the story I wrote. Please help!!

    http://crimesceneinvestigations.blogspot.com/2010/09/vernon-county-authorities-need-help.html

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    The Vernon County Sheriff’s Office and the Missouri State Highway Patrol are asking for the public's help in the identification of human remains found in Vernon County in January of 2000.

    A resident walking down a remote lane southeast of Nevada in January of 2000 discovered a skull and body parts, according to Vernon County Sheriff Ron Peckman. Authorities initially thought that the human remains belonged to Cheryl Ann Kenney who went missing in February of 1991.

    It wasn't until earlier this year that that theory was shot down. Laboratory analysis from a forensics lab in Louisiana determined the remains are that of a white male. It is estimated that the man was between 26 and 36 years of age at the time of his death. It is believed the man died sometimes between 1985 and 1997.

    http://crimesceneinvestigations.blogspot.com/2010/09/vernon-county-authorities-need-help.html
     
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    I think I found the original news article from 2000. (Note that "Nevada" is a city in Missouri, not the state.)

    http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...n county missouri skull found&pg=2233,1021470

    http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...AIBAJ&dq=nevada missouri skull&pg=3968,896693

    Recovered at the scene on January 9, 2000 were a skull, hip bone, human hair, bullet (believed to be .38 caliber) and enough decayed clothing fragments that the sheriff was quoted as saying he felt they could match it to clothing descriptions in missing persons' reports.

    So it was understandably hard to determine the gender of this UID without resorting to a lab test, and height and weight probably can't be determined at all, but I wish they'd describe the clothing and hair color.

    Also, only 30 feet from a private driveway and the UID may have been there as early as 1985? I guess that's possible if it's a fairly long path through a seldom-traveled wooded area...
     
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    Would it be kosher to ask a mod to change the thread to reflect "found January 2000" rather than the September 2010 press release? Not meant as a slight at you, SI-LOCAL, we don't have a thread-naming convention around here (though maybe we should!) and I thank you for starting this post.
     
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    Gonna attach the reconstruction image here for reference.

    Unidentified white male, estimated age 26-36, found 9 January 2000 southeast of the city of Nevada in Vernon County, Missouri. May have died as early as 1985 or as late as 1997.
     

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    Thoughts?

    Richard D. Dake, missing since April 20, 1999 from Mountain Grove, Missouri.
    http://charleyproject.org/cases/d/dake_richard.html

    Possible he may not have been missing long enough, although decomposition in southern Missouri in the summer would not be terribly slow. Appearance-wise, he's not a bad match.

    Mountain Grove sits on the border of Texas and Wright counties about 120 miles southeast of where the UID was found near Nevada in Vernon County.
     
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    He looks reasonably close, considering the lack of detail.
     
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    Steven Alyea

    http://www.findthemissing.org/photos/full/246

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/a/alyea_steven.html


    Taking us 71 south is a direct route to Lamar, MO. He would have passed through Nevada, MO on his way to Lamar, MO.

    Kansas City, MO to Nevada, MO : US 71 SOUTH appr. 95 mi

    Nevada, MO to Lamar, MO : US SOUTH appr. 28 mi

    Fayetteville, AR is about 118 miles south of Lamar, MO

    Does anyone else think he might resemble the UID?
     
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    On a gut level, yes, I do see a resemblance to Steven Alyea. Maybe one of the anthropometric/Photoshop folks around here can weigh in with an overlay or side-by-side.

    Edited to add: Mr. Alyea had an implanted pacemaker. It sounds like only partial remains were found for the UID, but if there were a pacemaker anywhere near the body site I'd hope it would have been found.
     
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    I can't do the overlays, but here's a side-by-side. Yeah, definitely a strong resemblance, and the circumstances fit very nicely.
     

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    Ok I am usually a lurker....but have decide to take that leap and start to be active. I have believe that the circumstances and the pictures look very similar.
     
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    I emailed the missing persons division of the Kansas City, Mo police department. I sent them the UID press release information from the Missouri State Highway Patrol including the reconstruction image. I also included the route that Steven might have taken if he indeed was going to Lamar, MO and this is why I thought there was possibility that it could be him.

    I'm sure they have already thought of this and possibly 'ruled out' this UID with regards to Steven Alyea, but you never know. I wish there was access to a list of persons/UIDs that have already been 'ruled out' in both cases. I'm still looking for any past news articles that might indicate the clothing that was found with the UID or any other info.

    I have lurked for years. I just started posting and was not ready to start a thread. I had read the UID press release and kept checking WS for a thread. It seemed there was such a limited release of the info and only the local media was picking it up. I reluctantly started the thread because I was afraid it wouldn't get any attention. I apologize if I have made any mis-steps and welcome any pointers.
     
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    You've done great! I'm glad you posted -- it looks like a very real possibility.
     
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    September 18, 2010
    ‘CSI: Nevada’
    Lab helps officers put face on remains found 10 years ago

    By Greg Grisolano
    joplinglobe.com
    Globe Staff Writer

    Interesting article:
    http://www.joplinglobe.com/local/x1561144842/-CSI-Nevada

    At least it is confirmed that estimated height is not available.
     
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    I live in the area where the skull was found. Some of the info listed was not accurate. The skull was found in the path of a gate that is opened every morning so it was not there the day before. The LE only did a cursory search of the area and have never been back. In local news reports they said they searched with a backhoe, this is not true. The MHP have issued conflicting statements about the skull. They have stated at different times that this skull is, a young man, a woman, or that DNA was inconclusive. An anthropologist said they could not determine sex, but thought it was a young man or a smallish woman. An overlay of this face on Cheryl Anne Kenney's face, she disappeared about the same time, matches perfectly.
    http://www.myspace.com/cheryl_ann_kenney
     
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    here is a list of rule-outs, includes Steven Alyea:

    https://identifyus.org/cases/8023

    I read the link to the original article and it said they had enough DNA to test. The article also gave a wider age range. I see from this UID's Namus profile the DNA is known and entered. I assume that means that any missing person with a known DNA sample would be ruled out? At the same time, the rule-out list only has 5 names on it.

    having said all that, what about this guy Greg Tilley missing from MO in 1992? he is not one of the 5 on the rule-out list. he was 22 in 1992 but age estimates can be wrong.

    his car was found in NV in 1993, but that does not by any stretch means that he made it out of MO. there is a good face pic of him in the images section.

    https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/2294/3/
     
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