MO MO - Ricky McCormick, 41, St Louis, 30 June 1999

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  1. ClarenceBodiker

    ClarenceBodiker New Member

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    Sorry, I meant did another spiral of the alphabet clockwise. Give it a go anyway. I think it could be a combination of the anti-clockwise one and something else.
     
  2. ClarenceBodiker

    ClarenceBodiker New Member

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    Or maybe if you just do one massive anticlockwise spiral other bits of it will eventually appear pointing to a letter of the 'original' alphabet inside (or something... lol). Will pop back tomorrow though anyway (late here in the UK).
     
  3. Video1

    Video1 New Member

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    I used both the profile and the letters combined with various factors such as demographic, race, terminology, symptoms, confirmed hospital issues, health issues, drop out factors, posted criminal possibilities, and various others ways to back into him personally and what his life might have been like and what some people might have mistaken in behavioral patterns to be at the time they would have been noted. Then factored in autism and dyslexia based on those and his actual writings on the premise that this was not a code and copied data in some form.

    The hardest part for me was trying to get out of the FBI's intention and reading the profile, and making constant adjustments and ruling out alternate scenarios.

    Best,

    Kris
     
  4. bessie

    bessie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    Hi there, Clarence. I like the way you think. I happen to sense something whimsical about RM's method, like a game of sorts. So I played around with your spiral idea a bit. I'm afraid I didn't get far, though, because I'm really pooped out tonight. Will try again in the morning.
     
  5. bessie

    bessie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    Thanks for your response. That makes sense.
     
  6. Soulmagent

    Soulmagent Well-Known Member

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    I had wondered if anyone had tryed writing it out on paper themselves. Glad you did.
     
  7. Whitehat

    Whitehat New Member

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    Not sure if anyone posted to this yet, but I will. I did a full transpositional sweep on this code with software, including morse and it came back as junk.
     
  8. Whitehat

    Whitehat New Member

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    As for the car theory, I can tell you that this guy was certainly not jacking and chopping. I used to be huge into the import tuner life years ago. There is a certain language and if these were codes, there would be things that stand out to me. The one thing that is valued the MOST by tuners is hard to find motors. Engine codes for in-demand tuner motors would be things like SR20DET, RB30, and RB26DETT. For Toyota, you would see codes for in-demand engines such as 1JZ-GTE and 2JZ-GTE.. the 2J also existed in a non-turbo form in the Lexus IS300.

    To be honest, it has crossed my mind that this guy simply had a really bad day at the hands of fate and just happened to have this code on him. I think it's totally possible that the code is actually a bit of a distraction and the focus is actually on something else. There are some very powerful computers out there, but the human mind is far more powerful. People can network computers together, but what happens when you network the power of thousands of human minds together? If that were the case, then the FBI would be just as in the dark and simply doing what they're told to do so that a third party can observe the results with impunity, anonymity, and autonomy. Nothing about this case strikes me as FBI worthy. I may not know exactly what's going on, but I'll bet the farm that there is FAR more to it and this "case" is just smoke and mirrors.
     
  9. Video1

    Video1 New Member

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    I had heard about this break in code but did not know the origin or the formula that was used and was so wrapped up in those notes I did not scan the web for comments till tonight. http://www.zodiackillerfacts.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1091&hilit=MCCORMICK

    Would appear that there is some code in there and that this guy did have some significant issues and references to a couple different aspects that have been mentioned here.

    Page two seems to divulge how the guy cracked the first two sections, interesting and must be some kind of doctor or something.

    Best,

    Kris
     
  10. shadowraiths

    shadowraiths LISK Liaison, Verified Forensic Psychology Special Staff Member Moderator

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    Location, disposition and identification

    Last seen alive
    Criminal Record
    Health, Education, and Employment
    Residences
    Friends and relatives
     
  11. shadowraiths

    shadowraiths LISK Liaison, Verified Forensic Psychology Special Staff Member Moderator

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    ... in re Post #545


    Location, disposition and identification

    The Alton news article indicates "privately owned clubhouses." What sort of clubhouses are these? What sort of activities do they sponsor? Could he have been attending an event with a someone? We also know the decomp was enough to confound CoD. And LE appears to be ambivalent wrt whether CoD was health related or foul play. And while they noted a head injury, no weapons were recovered. In other words, he may have fallen, struck his head, become disoriented and wandered to the area where died. That is, *if* he was already in the area.

    Last seen alive

    The Alton news article indicates he was last seen on Saturday and that he may have been killed later that day. Again, same question as above.

    Criminal Record

    The two sexual offense charges listed for St Claire County may not be his. Since we do not have a birth date. However, in light of the severity of the 1993 charge, the likelihooed of him being a repeat sexual offender is significant.

    Health, Education, and Employment

    Did McCormick have COPD? If so, the etiology of that particular disease leaves open the possibility that he may have been employed prior to its onset. Since he seemed to be eligible for wellfare, even if he did, he likely worked in minimum wage jobs, as social security disability benefits are based upon the amount of money an individual has paid into the system.

    Whatever the case, I wouldn't rule out any "under the table" activity. Even so, it would have to involve something that did not require physical labor due to his chronic heart/lung issues.

    Additionally, while he may be a high school dropout, that means very little with regard to his intelligence (or lack thereof). Regardless of the assumption that dropping out of High School is equivalent to illiteracy.

    Furthermore, there are no indications in any of the media or court reports to support the assertions that he had severe learning disabilities and/or was a "barely functioning" autistic.

    Residences

    From the above, it appears he lived with his girlfriend at least up through the week before his death (i.e., June 24, 1999).

    Friends and relatives

    He may have been a deadbeat dad. Or, the mother(s) may have chosen to keep his children from him. If the latter, was it due to the normal toxic breakups? Or perhaps, abuse? For example, relating to his sexual predilection toward children?

    Summary

    All in all, what little we know of the man, his history seems unremarkable. As for the "code" reflecting chemical compounds, directions, gambling data, hardware and/or automotive part numbers? Perhaps. Then again, perhaps not. After all, it is pretty normal to recognize patterns that are familiar to us. Otherwise put, a chemist will see chemical compounds, a gambler will see betting numbers, a car enthusiast will see car parts, and a cryptologist will see... ciphers. What any one of us sees however, is moot.

    The relevant question is, what patterns were familiar to him? In order to even remotely begin to identify such, we need to build a valid and reliable profile based upon hard data, as opposed to inferences arising from our own personal experiences and biases. And that would require interviewing his family and friends.

    ... or perhaps, simply making an FOIA request to the FBI.
     
  12. tabasquito

    tabasquito New Member

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    Hello, Web Sleuths community.

    After waiting several days to get my account activated, I am finally able to post my first contribution. Earlier in this thread, I saw a number of people suggesting these might be bookie notes. So I have looked into that angle pretty intently, and while I can't rule that out, I feel it is unlikely.

    For starters, why write a code such as this and then include the word TOTE in plain text? Seems like any bookie keywords would be coded to avoid attention from police or others who might see the note.

    Also, while there does seem to be some logical groupings in the note that could be repetitive enough to represent a sheet listing bets, I don't feel this contains enough detail to represent a realistic betting sheet. And in this format, it would be extremely difficult to score the sheet to determine winners and losers. And this is something any bookie would want to get perfect.

    Getting past that, I looked into what sports were active during the last week of his life, and checked if I saw any correlation with the numbers in the notes. Perhaps this was a bookie's collection/payout sheet containing a summary of accounts and amounts won or lost for the week.

    Again this is unlikely, as the collections would typically take place on a Tuesday. And from the date surrounding this, it seems this note would be out of date several days later. At least if some of the notes had been collected, it seems some would have been removed, crossed out, or marked as collected. Again, bookies would be very careful about this tracking.

    More evidence to me that this is not a bookie's notes. However, taking a look at numbers and scores, I did see some possible coincidences.

    For starters, looking at his date of death and when the note would have likely been produced shortly before that, I focused in on the last week or two of June. On June 23, there was an NBA finals game between San Antonio and New York. San Antonio won 96-89. This doesn't appear to me to correlate with any numbers in the note.

    Looking at Major League Baseball scores, things get a tiny bit more interesting. On June 23, the St Louis Cardinals (local team) lost to the Houston Astros 8-4. There is an 84 in the note. However, I have not yet found any scores that match the 99 or the 52 in that same week. So make of that what you will. Maybe it's just a coincidence.

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    Taking a look at the other page of code, I saw the 71, 74, and 75 lines. And I have a different thought that I haven't seen discussed yet in this thread. (Maybe I just missed it.) This man died in the last week of June, 1999. It's entirely possible these numbers, in that context, could represent 7/1, 7/2, and 7/4 ie dates in the upcoming week. Maybe they refer to upcoming appointments.

    Taking the bookie angle again, I looked to see if there could be a sports connection. Maybe they represent upcoming games.

    (FLRSE PQSE ONDE 71 NCBE)
    Maybe this is FLR = short for FLoRida Marlins. They played an away game on 7/1. They lost 6-3.

    (PRTSE PRSE ONREDE 75 NCBE)
    Maybe this is another abbreviation he used. PRT = Pittsburgh PiRaTes. They lost a home game on 7/5 which was 5-2. Hmmm a coincidence with the 52 above.

    Finally, (CDNSE PQSE ONSDE 74 NCBE)
    Perhaps CDN was his abbreviation for the St Louis CarDiNals. They lost a home game on 7/4 17-5.

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    Now to address a conspiracy theory that some MLB games are fixed or that some super genius betting group can predict scores in advance for betting, I took at look at the numbers to see if this was a sheet of betting instructions with predicted scores on the above games. What can I say? I was trying to be thorough. :)

    Looking at 26 MLSE 74 SPRKSE 29KCNOB,OLE 175 RTRSE
    35 GLE CLGSE UUNUTKEBKRSE PSESHLE

    We can see the 17-5 score. The other scores are close to numbers listed, but not an exact match. I don't personally feel this is likely, but just throwing it out to the community since I noticed the data.

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    Forgetting sports, I also looked into the one-time pad idea proposed early in the thread. If this is a one time pad in use, that seems extremely unlikely to me. There is way too much repetition for that to be likely in my opinion. What are the odds that NCBE would terminate so many lines randomly using a one-time pad? And the repetition of WLD only seems to confirm that for me. But who knows for sure? Not me.

    I can see the thread has been most active among the car enthusiasts at this point, but wanted to share my thoughts anyway.
     
  13. Me3

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    Just checked and the bus runs as far as Jamestown Mall (built in 1972)....from there, it is ~ 8 miles to the Alton Belle Casino. Was his health where he could walk that far? If so, it would put him walking close to area where body was found. Was he walking and poor health caused death? Or was he on his return route (with winnings) and met up with bad luck? Or on either pass...did he see something he shouldn't have seen? Did Alton Belle have cameras in 1999? Would be interesting to know if girlfriend had car.
     
  14. bessie

    bessie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    Eight miles is a long walk for someone with cardio/pulmonary problems, and the bridge looks pretty narrow too allow pedestrians. Also, if he was walking and died from natural causes, how did his body end up in the dense foliage beside the field road? I suppose he could've taken a bus to Jamestown and hitchhiked across the river. I've given thought to RM riding a shuttle because casinos usually offer transportation to hotels or a centralized location, like a mall. Because of the Alton Belle's location, I'd bet they offered shuttle service to downtown St. Louis. But if RM rode a shuttle, he wouldn't have ended up where he did. Unless he rode a shuttle to the casino and caught a ride when he left.

    I've also shared your thought about RM being robbed for his winnings. IMO, that would be a probable scenario considering the location of his body. The perp could've been an acquaintance, or even a friend, who watched him leave and offered him a ride. The casino would most definitely have cameras, but did LE ever look at the video to identify RM after his death? We shouldn't automatically assume the answer is yes.

    I wonder what day of the month RM received his disability checks.
     
  15. Video1

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    I think the profile I did is going to be pretty close actually, the only way I used the profile in reference to cars was a line that somehow looked like work, and of course I lined it up with cars.

    He would be barely functional between heart and lung problems and autism, so when I said "High School Dropout" and "Barely Functional" and even "Illiterate" I did not mean to infer he was not intelligent, just not functioning on a normal level. I am not even sure how this guy would be classified and what he can do if the link I posted is correct is be autistic, possibly paranoid, be on medications, and have whatever other issues and still maintain a code system that operates on multiple keys that he carries in his head or are quickly available for reference.

    I find the whole scenario beyond bizarre and the victim has actual traits of a psychopath himself and maybe this is some kind deal where one fish eats another or natural order.
     
  16. bessie

    bessie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    Would you expound on this a bit, Whitehat? Are you suggesting that we're all unwitting subjects of an unusual behavioral science study? That's crossed my mind.
     
  17. UPPER90

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    Hi everyone,

    Still continuing on my first thoughts about this letter. I am not saying I am correct, but I continue to find aspects of this letter that tie together.

    My first post which was from Page 1 stated that there is a high amount of data that relates to types of E Coli. I have found on Page to references to Anthrax. Now I have learned that Anthrax is produced by using E. Coli.

    Also there was a Anthrax scare in St. Louis in Feb 1999. And the fact that one of the key suspects in the case was from St. Louis.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC98792/
    http://cryptome.org/alqaeda-anthrax.htm
    http://www.ph.ucla.edu/epi/Bioter/messageanthrax.html
    http://cryptome.org/is-z-hatfill.htm
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC103576/


    My problem is that I do not have enough background in Chemistry and Biology to continue to make more sence of what I see. Has anyone else looked into this angle.

    Also is has been found that some of the components of the chemical makeup of anthrax that has been mailed or used in the US has had products from SIGMA in St. Louis.

    Anyone have any thoughts on this.

    Still on the edge and trying to be different.
     
  18. Video1

    Video1 New Member

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    Well, only a couple ways you can really go with that. The profile indicates nothing in regards to science, and the individual profile would pretty much rule out and idealog (sic). Simply put the profile does not meet science or terrorist activity.

    That would leave the only option as plopping a code on the wrong profile, which I guess could make sense if your looking for a pound of anthrax.

    The profile fits a serial killer and portrays a victim, the translation link that I posted seems like a pretty solid call and appears to work, the only difference now would be that there is an actual cipher and the odds of him knowing his killer may have increased slightly.

    I do not know anymore really. What were his real hobbies?.

    K
     
  19. Me3

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    Good points...I didn't consider the bridge being to narrow for ped traffic. As far as when SSDI payments are made, on wiki answers, it says prior to 1997 that payment is on the 3rd...after 1997, it corresponds to B'day (someone posted his in this thread as 6/14/58)...so that would make payment on 4th Wed of month (6/23/99). Also, since I found an old 1999 calendar, I looked at the news reports posted. One reports him last being seen on Saturday and another reports at the hospital on 6/25/99, which was a Friday.
     
  20. Soulmagent

    Soulmagent Well-Known Member

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    Do you have any links pointing at that suspect to help back up the theory?
    I have not looked at this angle but it sounds interesting. I just dont know how that would pretain to Ricky unless a suspect was in the same hospital ,working or getting treatment.
     

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