MO MO - St Louis, BlkFem Child 54UFMO, 8-11, in abandoned bldg, Feb'83

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  1. AlwaysCoffee

    AlwaysCoffee Active Member

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    I don't believe someone like Maury Travis could be this girl's killer. He would have been only 17 or 18 at the time, which suggests this would be his first murder. I don't think whoever killed this girl killed only this girl. From what I gather, the decapitation was too clean, like he knew what he was doing.

    Just my own dumb opinion based on non-expert observation, of course.
     
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  2. Moonwalker9

    Moonwalker9 Well-Known Member

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    He joined the military after highschool. Briefly studied in Atlanta before getting addicted to drugs and getting sent to 5 years of jail after committing several robberies back in 1989. Seems that Maury started his crime spree much later then in 1983. I heard about Alton Coleman being a suspect though, however my personal opinion is that whoever did this may not have been a well known serial killer.


    Were almost reaching 38 years since she was found murdered. Let this be the last before she gets her name back.
     
  3. fidgeypie

    fidgeypie Find Ashley Loring Heavyrunner

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    Has there been anyone like othram or parabon interested in picking up her case? If not there should be
     
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  4. Moonwalker9

    Moonwalker9 Well-Known Member

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    Othram wrote in this thread before. I have asked if there was an interest in the case and got a reply to send info to their email which I did. But so far I haven't heard anything more about it.

    I think Carl contacted Parabon way back but don't know the outcome. Perhaps we need to send them a reminder.

    Dna doe project don't do kids. I suggested this case but they declined for that reason.

    Are there any other well known companies that could be interested? I am sure St louis Would like to see their most famous jane doe case solved.
     
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  5. fidgeypie

    fidgeypie Find Ashley Loring Heavyrunner

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    Redgrave research forensic services maybe? They are getting the credit for finding out who delta Dawn was
     
  6. data_nerd_2005

    data_nerd_2005 Verified in Data Science & Data Engineering

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    How much does testing at parabon cost? Is there anyway to donate towards getting the test done for her? This case haunts me
     
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    From 13 Oct 2020
    @othram anything you'd like to share? :)
     
  8. othram

    othram Verified Owner of Othram Inc/DNA Expert

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    We are aware of the case and its on our list! No other news to share at the moment, though. Given the nature of the crime, it does seem clear that DNA testing is likely the only way to move the case forward.
     
  9. ChatteringBirds

    ChatteringBirds Well-Known Member

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    Funding won't be the issue for this case. Sooo many people would donate, I am sure of it. But will LE cooperate and is proper DNA still available? JMO
     
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  10. Moonwalker9

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    I believe they will cooperate. This case has haunted them for decades. They dug up her remains a few years ago to collect new evidence after a long search that would take weeks since her grave was unmarked and there was no record where it was located at the cemetery. I do think there is a willingness to solve it when they took such great measures to collect new samples of her. And through DNA is certainly the only was solve this case at this point.
     
  11. fidgeypie

    fidgeypie Find Ashley Loring Heavyrunner

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    I would happily donate for a chance to have her name restored.
     
  12. Triss

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    Me too. I would donate whatever I can to help give her real identity back. I believe that identifying her would lead to identifying her killer(s) too.
     
  13. fidgeypie

    fidgeypie Find Ashley Loring Heavyrunner

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    Yes I think so too. Let's hope othram will pick her up.
     
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  14. Richard

    Richard Well-Known Member

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    On February 28th, 1983, two men made a grisly discovery in the basement of an abandoned building in St. Louis, Missouri. There, beneath some debris, they discovered the lifeless body of a young black female. The victim had been bound, assaulted, strangled and decapitated post-mortem.

    Due to the absence of a head, identifying the victim would prove challenging and any connections that could be made to a possible suspect based on that ID was impossible. The child was given the name of Little Jane Doe, and for nearly forty years, her murder has haunted the St. Louis Police Department.

    Who is Little Jane Doe, who murdered her and will she ever receive justice?

    LINK:

    The Horrifying Murder of Little Jane Doe — Trace Evidence
     
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  15. Al Ka

    Al Ka Well-Known Member

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    The decapitated remains of a little girl found in the basement on an abandoned apartment building remain unidentified 38 years later

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    Her real name has eluded them for 38 years this week. But there are some updates to report.

    The St. Louis Metropolitan Police Department formed a Cold Case Unit in early 2019.
    This case is one of its priorities.

    Investigators have ruled out about 20 children through DNA.

    And they are keeping an eye on how private DNA databases are leading to big breaks in other decades-old cases.
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    The technique got a lot of attention when investigators arrested the serial killer known as the Golden State killer in 2016 – more than three decades after he raped, murdered, burglarized and terrorized dozens.

    So, why can’t it help identify Baby Jane Doe?

    St. Louis Maj. Shawn Dace says he gets that question a lot.

    The new Cold Case Unit answers to him.

    “I mean just because one case is solved doesn’t mean another one should be automatically solved,” he said. “Homicide cases are not cookie cutter cases. It takes breaks here, it takes cooperation from the community, it takes a variety of things to solve cases.”
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    Right around the 30-year anniversary of the case, St. Louis police investigators wanted to exhume her body from a pauper’s grave at a cemetery in north St. Louis County to get fresh DNA samples.

    The cemetery had fallen into major disrepair through the years. Trees and brush swallowed many of the graves when I visited the site in 2012 as a reporter for the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.
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    In 2013, a digging crew headed out to the cemetery and found Baby Jane Doe.

    At the dig that day was retired St. Louis homicide detective Joe Burgoon. He’s one of the few original investigators still alive.

    That exhumation led to mineral testing on her bones, which narrowed the little girl’s likely origin to about 11 states in the southeast region of the country.
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    If you have information about this case, call 866-371-TIPS.

    Baby Jane Doe case unsolved in St. Louis after 38 years | ksdk.com
     
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  16. Moonwalker9

    Moonwalker9 Well-Known Member

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    Today it was exactly 38 years ago she was found. Let it be the last year she remains nameless.
     
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  17. TheArtfulDetective

    TheArtfulDetective A voice for the missing

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    Absolutely and it's wonderful that her case has been so active recently. It seems like she knew the killer/s hence the decapitation to disguise her identity and to not be traced back. Like her mother's boyfriend or family member who molested her and it was covered up. If it wasn't, then why wasn't she ever reported missing by a family member?

    If they ever discover her identity, it will be solved quickly as someone like a friend or neighbor will remember her and know who her family is. Such a particularly heartbreaking case much like the Boy in the Box.
     
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  18. data_nerd_2005

    data_nerd_2005 Verified in Data Science & Data Engineering

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    Is there anybody who can be contacted for the use of DNA to be pushed for this case (like police or state representatives)? I've read about a lot of unsolved murders, but this one haunts me the most.
     
  19. Laughing

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    Try here:

    Home

    Point out that other cases have been crowdfunded successfully, no cost to the agencies involved?

    jmho ymmv lrr
     
  20. onceuponadecember

    onceuponadecember Well-Known Member

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    I just read about this case online and I want to cry. Who does this to such a young girl? Something is telling me that the head of this child had an identifying factor that the killer wanted hidden. The only other reason I would see the killer removing her head was to hinder ID
     
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