MO MO - St Louis, WhtMale UP7385, 15-35, in burned vacant building, Mar'92

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  1. Kymistry35

    Kymistry35 It's never to late to be who you could have been

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    Why would someone break into the casket and steal the skull? Unless it was their trophy.
     
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  3. CaliKid

    CaliKid Former Member

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    It's going to make it very difficult to identify this person without a skull.
     
  4. Dena

    Dena New Member

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    When an UID person is buried, do they usually have a marked gravestone and is it public knowledge where the person is buried?
     
  5. felder

    felder New Member

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    As I understand, in St. Louis, unidentified people are buried in a pauper's grave and there is no identification of the site (no stone).

     
  6. Dena

    Dena New Member

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    So someone close to the investigation had to have done this...
     
  7. AmandaBrown23

    AmandaBrown23 Im just living among all the madness

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    or some sicko, over here they steal them all the time. Its really creepy, why would you want that.
     
  8. Spazkat9696

    Spazkat9696 Former Member

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    Or maybe the pine box which is what would be in a paupers grave was damaged or degraded by environmental factors like rain and wild animals.
     
  9. LisainWV

    LisainWV New Member

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    Is it possible the skull was retained for a future reconstruct and this is a simple case of miscommunication?
     
  10. webrocket

    webrocket New Member

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    there is a Namus profile for this UID and there is no mention of a missing skull. either the skull was found later or they used dental x-rays from original autopsy for the dental info.

    https://identifyus.org/cases/7385


    Namus has the UID as a white male, with blonde/brown hair, 15-35 y.o., 5'8" to 5'11", weight estimated to be 145 lbs. body was found at the same address as the original post so it has to be the same body.

    I think they could not possibly confuse a 15 y.o. with a 35 y.o. so I will assume the UID was at least 18.
     
  11. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    Thanks for finding that, webrocket. It changes the list of possibles if he was white compared to "possibly black".

    Hair is described as
    Blonde/brown somewhat straight, about two inches in length.

    The clothing description might be helpful:

    Black rain coat, pink shirt, striped "Fruit of the Loom" boxer type underwear (size 30-32), blue jeans, white socks
    White T-shirt found in a pocket was embossed with the logo "Myrtle Beach"
    Shoe insole size 8 1/2 to 9
     
  12. webrocket

    webrocket New Member

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    here's one possible match Jeffrey Von Jones, age 26, missing from SC on Sept 1, 1989. was 5'10", brown hair, 145 lbs. was supposedly en route to CA when he left SC.

    that might explain a Myrtle Beach t-shirt in St.Louis, MO.

    https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/11103/12/
     
  13. webrocket

    webrocket New Member

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    well it's not Jones. his Namus profile is gone and the UID's is still there.
     
  14. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    NamUs UP # 7385 https://identifyus.org/en/cases/7385

    Unidentified White Male

    Found on March 07, 1992 at 4246 Olive, St. Louis Missouri.

    Vital Stats:
    Age: 15-35
    Height: 5'8" to 5'11"
    Weight: Approx 145 lbs.
    Hair: Blonde/brown somewhat straight, about two inches in length


    Clothing:
    * Black rain coat, pink shirt, striped "Fruit of the Loom" boxer type underwear (size 30-32), blue jeans, white socks, White T-shirt found in a pocket was embossed with the logo "Myrtle Beach". Shoe insole size 8 1/2 to 9


    Condition:
    * Not recognizable - Near complete or complete skeleton; Small build.
    * Mandible not recovered; teeth 1,16 partial eruption.
    * Probable year of death: 1991 to 1992
    * Estimated postmortem interval 1 Year

    Circumstances:
    * Skeletonized white male found in a vacant burned out business by workers removing gas service. He had a small build, 5'8" to 5'11", weight estimated to be 145 lbs. The hair was short to medium length ,blonde/brown and somewhat straight. Dental work was present. Possibly dead 1 to 3 years.
     
  15. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    webrocket New Member

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    Nikon Former Member

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    The doenetwork.org page on this body needs updating, there are a few discrepancies.

    1) was stabbing the definite cause of death? Nicks on ribs don't always mean the person was killed from stabbing.

    2) did they relocate the skull after all? Namus page sez all body parts present.

    I think another examination of the skeleton should be in the works. We've come a long way in 20 years.
     
  19. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    webrocket New Member

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    if they are 2 different UIDs then I accidentally placed this guy on the other thread.
     
  21. CherBearSTL

    CherBearSTL Member

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    It looks like we need to have these threads cleaned up. The other thread has posts about this uid as well. They are very similar.

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