Found Deceased MO - Toni Anderson, 20, North Kansas City, 15 Jan 2017 #3

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  1. kittymittons

    kittymittons New Member

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    The map shows that it last pinged in Parkville, which is probably 20 minutes from the major airport, and probably another 20 from the private airport. I feel like this might be a stretch.
     


  2. KMD_KC

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    Yes the closest airport you are referring to is not KCI and is used for smaller and mostly private aircraft. That makes sense if she was meeting with someone with access to a plane. That would be a quick getaway and easy to do as far as not leaving any identifying tracks. Other than the fact we still don't know where the car is.
     
  3. n_6CC

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    Do any of you remember the LISK case that involved an escort and her driver? She went to her clients house, then ran out screaming they are trying to kill me, ran into a remote area and died there next to other bodies. I don't know why, but this case reminds me of that one. I think Toni went to a clients home, left her phone in car, and never ended up leaving. I hope that is not what happened. I think her car is in a garage over in that area where her phone last pinged. I hope she is alive, but I do not see her putting her parents through all of this. In a garage or in the river. Just my opinion-


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  4. missgulfsouth

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    That's 16+ a month! Whoa .....
     
  5. Subiechik21

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    Good thought! I was thinking the same thing. OT: I love your profile picture, it is an adorable dog!
     
  6. misslu

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    I want to know who reported her missing and when as well. Ever MSM I've seen says something such as this:

    "Anderson never showed up to meet her friends after work, and she was reported missing. Investigators are reportedly using license plate readers and video surveillance and tracking her cellphone in an effort to locate her."

    It is an assumption, imo, that the friends at shady lady reported her missing when it's worded this way. I'd really like to find something clearer.



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  7. MaxManning

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    I think when talking about crime, you really need to go down to a smaller scale than a city.

    Take Chicago for instance. It's a rather large city with a large population, so if you look at the murder/crime rate it's not all that high. But if you cut up the city into smaller chunks you'll realize that a huge pct of the crime/murders is happening in relatively isolated areas, to a large extent correlating to poverty.

    From looking at the crime density maps in KC, I'd not be surprised if you cut out a few of the chunks of that city their crime/murder rate would be right up there with some of the worst parts of Chicago and other troubled cities.

    There's still so little we can exclude in this case, especially given we aren't even sure if the information we have is accurate.

    Even just recently we get told that the phone pinged Monday morning after being under the assumption that it likely went dead 6:30pm on Sunday night.
     
  8. heartgoesout

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    So I wondered pages ago that the officer would have said to her where are you headed? Typical question. Maybe she answered honestly hence why the video is not being released and why they have said no foul play. Just wondering.
     
  9. KMD_KC

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    Good point! That seems like a logical and very plausible explanation.
     
  10. KMD_KC

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    I've lived in KC my entire life. Certain areas are definitely quite dangerous.
     
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    Not to change the subject, but the crime rate in Chicago right now is extremely high, even when you don't put it into different sections. I'd say KC's is pretty high right now for the city's norm as well.
     
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    Josh Helmuth has tweeted a lot. According to him, Toni left at 4:40 and a cop/s saw her pump gas.
     
  13. thekarmabus

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    26 a month in Detroit , 63 a month in Chicago. These are deaths... not counting people that survived.:/


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  14. sophie taylor

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    I've come up with 4 scenarios: The text is the best clue and rings true to me.

    -Stopped by real cop at 4:42.

    -Stopped by fake cop at 4:42.

    -She managed to kill herself and not only hid her body but a 3000 pound car.

    -She's alive and <mod snip>
     
  15. duganflobbin

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    If she did go into the water my theory is that she or someone else pitched her phone. Find the phone and search the river bottom relative to where the phone was pitched. May even go further upstream. The temperature was 30 degrees that night so if her car did go into the water it would be more buoyant than if it was warmer meaning it could float downstream until the water temperature warmed up enough or the car was snagged on something. The temp Sunday was mid 40's so the car what have most likely sank by mid day at the latest. If you have a good idea of entry points where the river can be accessed calculate the speed of the river. It can probably be calculated to a certain degree where the car would be based on this assumption. If she was in fact pulled over by a fake cop she may have been knocked out and pushed into the river and phone pitched in a different location to increase the search area drastically. These are all guesses as I have been following this thread and peoples theories. How hard is it to listen to a scanner and prey on a victim if you know where they are being pulled over at? I think the police would even say how many occupants, male or female, age etc. If this is in fact foul play there is a significantly intelligent killer out there who is still on the loose.
     
  16. Megster024

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    It does not make sense to me that if she went into water, why was her phone on so long? Also, I'm aware there's been "fake cops" in the past, but what are the statistics? How realistic is that scenario really?


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  17. Dr.Strangelove

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    Normally I'd say they probably arnt that common but it seems that recently there has been someone impersonating an officer in Kansas City
     
  18. sophie taylor

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    I've heard that her phone died shortly, maybe a few hours after she went missing.

    I heard today someone say some people at the Shady Lady lived near where her phone last pinged.

    If she was seeing clients then that could be a good lead.

    Where was her phone pinging at 4:42?

    Was there really a cop watching her pump gas as late as 4:40 as Helmuth burped up early on.

    Was that the same cop who stopped her at 4:20?

    Why won't they release the footage of her movements at the QT?

    What are they trying to hide?
     
  19. thekarmabus

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    When you stand back and look at the facts there are only two logical reasons why she disappeared. First, nothing against what she chose to do in her life however it comes with a higher degree of putting yourself at risk . A drug deal gone bad, she couldn't pay up, they thought she was a CI or she wanted out. She went to meet them they killed her, pieced the car out. Second, she was an informant and something bad was going to go down. The traffic stop was a warning to disconnect GPS and meet up with handler . I'm only stating this because the stop seems fishy, times are off , no dashcam and scanner recording scrubbed for public.


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  20. KMD_KC

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    Your second theory is what I have believed all along. I have some other nuggets of ideas to support this.
     
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