Found Deceased MO - Toni Anderson, 20, North Kansas City, 15 Jan 2017 #6

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  1. tlcya

    tlcya Well-Known Member

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    Police still searching for 20-year-old Wichita woman last seen in KC
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    http://fox4kc.com/2017/01/17/police-still-searching-for-20-year-old-wichita-woman-last-seen-in-kc/

    Family desperate to find missing 20-year-old UMKC student

    http://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/...d-umkc-student

    Missing Kansas City woman’s last text: ‘OMG just pulled over again’
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    http://fox13now.com/2017/01/17/missing-kansas-city-womans-last-text-omg-just-pulled-over-again/

    Parents issue plea for help to find missing UMKC student

    http://www.kmbc.com/article/parents-issue-plea-for-help-to-find-missing-umkc-student/8609411

    Toni Anderson's body in car pulled from river, mother says

    http://www.kwch.com/content/news/LIVESTREAM--415923043.html

    Case Map (Thank you Skibaboo)

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  3. Greater Than

    Greater Than <b><span style="color:#000099;">WS Senior Moderato

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    Rumors and gossip are not permitted.

    If you state something as fact, you must be able to provide a link from an approved source to back it up.

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  4. BessDrew

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    I'm going to repeat a question here since the previous thread ended immediately before I posted it:

    Do we know if her phone has been recovered? If not, it raises other questions.

    If so, do we believe it's possible for techies to retrieve information from it after its been submerged for weeks/months? I know of people accessing info on phones that've been dropped or lost in water for shorter times, but I don't know what the possibility is for recovering info after so much time. I particularly would love to know if she was using any kind of dating/meetup/messaging app.
     
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    I'm confused. How do you detect a bruise on the knee but due to decomposition the ID had to be done by her clothing?
     
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  7. BessDrew

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    From what I understand, it doesn't slip in upside down, but the engine can make it "top heavy" so to speak and make it nose dive and flip with the current. Not an expert. Just what I read. :)
     
  8. thekarmabus

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    Hey Bessdrew... I did look up photos. Not to make light of Toni's situation by any means. Just WT* was this guy thinking?
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  9. DatelineFan

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    The window could be open because she was sleepy, and trying to use the cold air to stay awake. Or maybe she was smoking.
     
  10. sophie taylor

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    [FONT=&amp]-All video footage should be demanded in order to make sure the cop or third/mystery car did not follow Toni.

    -The footage being described is Toni leaving the traffic stop, not the gas station. This is apparently a slight of hand. A subliminal message, if you will.

    -All three cars turn right, (which is south) a direction she could not possibly have gone according to Police saying she went to the QT immediately after. Her turning south is also consistent with where she told the officer she intended to go.

    -The big problem is she failed to drive directly (east) across the street to fill her tank.

    -The cop car applies its brakes as Toni pulls away, but we don't know about the mystery car. If that car followed Toni, then foul play is likely involved. THE ACTION BEGINS AROUND 3:15.

    -The cops, media, and anyone interested in this case can only ignore these facts. It is a catch 22. She didn't go to the gas station and didn't drive north after the traffic stop.

    -Toni, only could have gotten gas before the traffic stop that we see, which could suggest she was stopped before 4:33.

    [video=youtube;gGMFd5OFij4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGMFd5OFij4[/video]

    Kansas City woman vanishes after early-morning traffic stop; phone, GPS deactivated

    And as Toni leaves the gas station to get back on the highway known as the Route 9 Corridor, you can see the cop who'd pulled her over continue to follow her until she is out of view of surveillance cameras.

    "There is no visual evidence to show where she went," said Sgt. Caldwell.

    https://www.google.com/maps/@3 9.1477101,-94.5808062,3a,56.8y ,99.02h,66.59t/data=!3m6!1e1! 3m4!1sZ0vEbb5lt5BJfij61f7sfw! 2e0!7i13312!8i6656

    https://www.google.com/maps/@3 9.147283,-94.5812554,349m/data =!3m1!1e3

    https://www.google.com/maps/pl ace/2600+Burlington+St,+North+ Kansas+City,+MO+64116/@39. 1477162,-94.5811318,3a,19.7y, 111.21h,87.01t/data=!3m6!1e1! 3m4!1sFFJB95JYAnQz23o1cIWPYQ! 2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4! 1s0x0:0x9471dc0324d42c28!8m2! 3d39.1478167!4d-94.580685!6m1! 1e1

    https://www.google.com/maps/@39.147...4!1sD8IKdzADWNUExwhAeqm_ug!2e0!7i13312!8i6656










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    Not a hydro physicist by any means but I would guess that the placement of wheels ( if she turned them) , flow of water and other things occurring in water ... usually rocks but perhaps in this case other vehicles ... it can " gracefully" turn upside down in water.


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    Helmuth said her mother told him her body hadn't decomposed much due to the cold water

    [video=twitter;841067404239224837]https://twitter.com/jhelmuth/status/841067404239224837[/video]


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  13. VictoriaH

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    Yeah I just don't get it either.
    So if she completely slid into the water because of ice on the ramp, was it the current that just took over from there?
    Maybe when she realized there was no backing out she rolled down the window thinking she'd be able to escape but the current was way too strong pushing her back into the car?
     
  14. BessDrew

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    I hear ya. 2 or 3 times a year, my husband and I just look at each other and shake our heads in reaction to things people do near/on the lakes near us. ;)
     
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    Aerial view:
    https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1824394,-94.6947708,257m/data=!3m1!1e3
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    This is the street that leads to the boat ramp (at the curve on the left).
    Note: there is no warning that the street is about to end and the curve leads to a boat ramp.
    https://www.google.com/maps/place/K...aa51a2!8m2!3d39.0997265!4d-94.5785667!6m1!1e1
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    The view from near the bottom of the ramp, looking up:
    https://www.google.com/maps/place/K...8525e66aaa51a2!8m2!3d39.0997265!4d-94.5785667
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    (I posted my theory with these maps earlier)
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?331703-MO-Toni-Anderson-20-North-Kansas-City-15-Jan-2017-5&p=13223083#post13223083
     

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    Re phone under water
    We kayak and have life proof cases on our phones. They ring and get text messages underwater all the time.

    Whoever insisted phones don't work underwater has incorrect info.
     
  17. sophie taylor

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    This case could not be not anything other than suicide or homicide. I feel the accident conclusion is a gift to the parents who can live with a comfortable falsehood. They could never in a million years accurately conclude this an accident so quickly. It's impossible.
     
  18. heartgoesout

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    Caldwell said the man she was meeting with had been forthcoming.
    Maybe when he said there were people that were not telling the whole truth and had some secrets of their own the man said he met her there, told them what they did and then said he drover off. He didnt tell them exactly what they did though. ?
     
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    Thank you for confirming this, I thought I had read it but couldn't find where. I think he drove off after they met, before she left so he never saw her leave, and she started on her way out but ended up on the ramp.

    ETA: He may HAVE told police what they did, but they are not making it public because it's sensitive subject matter.


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  20. heartgoesout

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    It was on the Crime Watch Daily show.

    So I feel like DJ was not the coworker she was going to meet. This was a different man I think. Someone who told police almost everything but maybe not that last 1%. Maybe he left her there after they did some heavy drugs together.
     
  21. sophie taylor

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    Do you see how that could be true, now that we know she went south? We are looking at denials here. We have proof of a cover-up, which does not automatically mean homicide.
     
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