MS - Jessica Chambers, Panola County - Maps and Photos - **NO DISCUSSION**

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  1. bessie

    bessie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    Post maps, directions, and area photographs in this thread.

    Don't forget to include links with your photos.



    If you have information that may lead to an arrest, please contact the Panola County Sheriff's Office at (662) 563-6230.
     
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  3. PeterThomasFan

    PeterThomasFan Well-Known Member

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    Looking at the location of where JC's car was found on the map, it would have been on the left side of the road when driving SW. Not the right side of the road? :thinking:

    Looking at the photo of the aftermath and tracks (although some are obviously from the tow truck hauling her car away), her car would have had to do a complete 180 to end up as it did!

    If she wasn't forced off of the road then, why didn't she simply pull off to the side on the right? If you look at the map, the driveways across the street from one another are almost identical too.


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    Thank you SStarr33 for posting a link to these photos.

    IMHO, the driver's seat is NOT reclined to the same extreme position as the passenger seat (as illustrated below). Even allowing for the photo angle, the passenger seat is obviously reclined to a greater degree than the driver's seat. In addition, the passenger seat appears to be "pushed back" farther away from the dashboard than Jessica's driver's seat. This would allow for a longer-legged passenger, such as a male or female who was considerably taller than Jessica.
     

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    This is a view of the crime scene and a green, steel, locked gate.

    View attachment 65489

    This is the opposite side of Herron Dr with a similar, locked gate

    View attachment 65490

    Does anyone know who owns these properties?
     

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    BBM from here: by Clay Chandler, The (Jackson, Miss.) Clarion-Ledger 12 p.m. EST December 14, 2014 http://www.13wmaz.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/14/burned-teen-vigil/20396499/

    BTW, The portion footage clearing the white striped sweater guy, though he still seems very different then the original view of the big white striped guy, in these previously posted versions here, http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ola-County-Dec-2014-2&p=11301122#post11301122 now screen grabbed to show him at the counter, going to the pump, with the same cars and people in the background as captured in the rest of the video, and walking away just as Jessica Chambers bends down before going into the store.
    View attachment 65555 , View attachment 65556 View attachment 65558 View attachment 65557
     

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    Thanks as ever for the map skibaboo. Just looking at it, using your link as well, one thing stands out about the location. If perp was in the car alone with Jessica Chambers, then at that location, if the perp had no backup at the time, he would have two clear paths out of there and back toward town while remaining unseen on the main roads. Maybe canvasing the area for clues may help, foot prints, tracking dogs, anyone on foot walking past security cameras coming from that direction and back into town. As you can see from the map, the area dips down where the car was found on the embackment. The perp if he crossed the road and head up the dirt road would have a perfect perch to lurk and see what happened. This may also indicate that he was a local and knew the lay of the land.
    https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@34.2325278,-89.9538145,99a,20y,83.4t/data=!3m1!1e3 a screen grab if the map doesn't work for you
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    At 1:59, the angle changes and it shows 6:26:11 through the 6:26:54 mark and beyond. This is the only camera view I have seen any of the missing 54 seconds in. And we still have 11 missing completely. Here's some screen shots:
    View attachment 65567 In this first one, you can see stripe shirt guy behind Jessica's car, the gas can is visible.
    View attachment 65568 View attachment 65569 View attachment 65570 View attachment 65571 Stripe shirt guy is pumping gas in the rest of the shots here.

    ETA link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUivKX1lueE
     

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    Also, this video has footage that appears to match the 6:26:00 minute mark (if you look at the people leaving the store they match the time stamps from the screen shots I posted above), but the news heading covers the time stamps for the footage in this clip. http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story...rt-burning-victim-before-death?autostart=true

    ETA: screenshots
    View attachment 65573 This would be 6:26:09
    View attachment 65574 6:26:10
    View attachment 65575 6:26:11 (where the screen shot in my post above shows stripe shirt man behind Jessica's car, the people in the screen match up as far as I can see)
    View attachment 65576 Also 6:26:11 (from link in my prior post https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUivKX1lueE)

    What I haven't found are time stamps from this footage inside: View attachment 65577 (this might be part of the missing 11 seconds, which makes me wonder what they are trying to avoid showing the viewer)
     

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    Striped-jacket opens the front door at 06:26:07 and can be seen at 06:26:09 moving behind the station wagon, approaching Jessica's pump in the belw screen capture #1 from the MyFoxMemphis video. The 8x-speed moves very quickly so you should stop action as soon as you see 06:26:02 or :03, and stop/start thereafter. I hope you know what I mean. Anyway, that sort of clears up the missing 06:26:00 to 06:26:54 that I've been babbling about.

    #1
    View attachment 65578

    But you are correct: There does not appear to be any video timestamp footage for inside screen capture #2

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    View attachment 65629

    SBHack--

    The right side footage mark on this screen capture (from the WMC Action 5 copy) is 06:26:00. We know that Striped-jacket left the counter and exited the doorway at 06:26:02 (as I recall). From that point on we can account for JC's actions until appx. 06:32:00.

    Prior to 06:26:00, we have outside footage which covers the period from 06:24:39 leading up to 06:32:00 however sketchy it may be.

    Using some of that sketchy material, I believe that we can show when both the Yellow-pants and the Blue-jacket men entered the convenience store, as well as some of the other customers/employees.

    Do you believe it is worthwhile to perform this? Personally I do not believe so at this time...neither party is a POI.
     

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    Don't forget to use your turn signal!

    2D Driving Simulator on Google Maps


    Points of Interest:

    Jessica's Home - 1024 Carlisle Rd, Courtland, MS 38620

    Mc Cullars First Stop - 8967 U.S. 51, Courtland, MS 38620

    Crime Scene - 3448 Herron Rd, Courtland, MS 38620

    DDT - 686 Herron Rd, Courtland, MS 38620

    Panola County Sherif's Dept. - 106 College St, Batesville, MS 38606
     
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    some I uploaded before, not all from the gas station, but at the lot as well, on MSM.
     

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    more... View attachment 66527 4 people seem to exit the car that pulls up on the other side of pump from Jessica's. A younger man stays and gets set to pump gas, the lady in white crosses paths with Jessica on her way to the store, but she's preceded by 2 men who split up, with one going to the store, and the other to the dark corner.

    The last shot is the most sad or haunting for me, up to now. It gives the sense you can see her thinking about how she will deal with something. I have about 500 of them from the videos, so let me know if there's some shot you may want.

    Jessica walks back to her car past the two men who came from the white pickup area, then past the lady in white.
     

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    View attachment 66535 he looks outside, at one point, as gas jug guy fills up
    View attachment 66536 and blue jacket guy is about to walk in
    View attachment 66537 that's the moment gas jug guy leaves in the background
    View attachment 66538 your guy is at the counter as pink deli lady does her thing
    View attachment 66539 the only time I caught what could be a cell phone or maybe even a lottery ticket or something he takes to the counter afterwards, was here
     

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