Mystery Man Surveillance

Discussion in 'Lisa Irwin' started by CathyinTexas, Oct 23, 2011.

  1. CathyinTexas

    CathyinTexas New Member

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  3. DairyGirl

    DairyGirl New Member

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    From above link.
    What wooded area? Where was he seen? And if it was related, where was the baby? Supposedly he was seen at around midnight, an African American man, with a baby only in a diaper, then on a surveillance camera at 2:30 am no baby or location mentioned, then again around 4:00 am, no description other then wearing a T shirt, with a baby that had no coat or blanket. Mighty brazen kidnapper to be hanging around so long.
    I hope it is true and there is a chance that Lisa is alive but it makes no sense.
     
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    Not buyin' that it has anything to do with the case, all an attempt to muddy the waters and taint a jury pool. moo
     
  5. Shelby1

    Shelby1 Cancer Sucks

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    I wonder where this video is from? A house ? A business?
     
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    Are we sure the man was African American? I don't remember reading this before...
     
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    gas station
     
  8. Sigh Sister

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    I believe the reports that it was an African American man are not accurate. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
     
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    I doubt this is related.

    That said, I'm wondering if a local could help us pin down where the video is from. Looking at maps, from the rough placement on that video, my guess is the Surf N Go at NE Parvin & N Brighton.

    If so, how does this fit with placement and timing of the dumpster fire?
     
  10. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    The reporting is a bit stretching IMO.

    It says that the surveillance video supports Lisa's parents' story that she was abducted from her home.

    But from what I can tell from the video is that it establishes that there was somebody out and about walking, not carrying a baby as far as I can tell.

    I'm not sure why I should think the fact that there was a pedestrian on the loose supports the claim that Lisa was abducted. I bet there are any number of pedestrians on any given night. Why is the walker more suspicious than the guy in the vehicle? He could have Lisa in his trunk.

    Now if they have found some evidence of Lisa in that wooded area that's different.
     
  11. DairyGirl

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    I sure wish someone in their neighborhood had a surveillance camera set up on the street.
     
  12. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    We are discussing this in other threads and it was said that it's 0,7 miles, 4-5 blocks from the dumpster fire.
     
  13. HatesSociopaths

    HatesSociopaths Inactive

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    IMO it seems like somebody went to great lengths to create reasonable doubt in this case. Deception abounds, and perhaps a morbid enjoyment in toying with LE.
     
  14. jjenny

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    I have no idea. The witnesses were specifically asked to describe the man with a baby and neither one of them (wife of the man who saw it at 12:15 or the motorcycle guy who saw it at 4:10) mentioned anything about race.
     
  15. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    It came from this article which appears to be based on hearsay:

    Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/14/3208365/neighborhoods-trust-stability.html#ixzz1bcycsQkK
     
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    I've heard it said that if a witness doesn't mention race, the person is probably of the same race. That being said, I wish the reporters interviewing these witnesses would have asked. Seems like an important detail when you're trying to describe someone. I'm sure LE knows, though.
     
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    jjenny Active Member

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    One would think that, unless they were trying to be PC.
     
  18. HMSHood

    HMSHood Admiral-Class Battlecruiser

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    From OP article.

    This sounds fishy.
     
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    The metro area of Kansas City has 2.2 million people. I don't think the video is related.

    MOO
     
  21. laytonian

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    IMO, mentioning that you saw an African American person isn't a problem, if that's what you saw. No more than saying you saw a Caucasian.
     

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