Mystery Man Surveillance

Discussion in 'Lisa Irwin' started by CathyinTexas, Oct 23, 2011.

  1. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    I don't feel justified in considering him anything other just a random person who was out at night until something, anything, connects him to Lisa's disappearance. Sure, check him out if you can but I'm certain there are lots of other people on that surveillance tape, why not check them out too? Have the people in the vehicles been ruled out?

    What I am more interested in in the gas station footage than a blobbing blob that does not (IMO) appear to be emerging from a wooded area is, are there people who bought gas in a canister? Yesterday's video said that the man who reported the dumpster fire said the flames were high and he suspected that some kind of accelerant was used.
     


  2. Tuffy

    Tuffy Not really that tough...

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    BBM: We have a MSM link stating that their sources <LE> said she "failed miserably." If we only discuss the facts that an actual cop states on TV as fact we'll have very little to go on.

    We usually depend on our "sources" for this sort of thing. They are usually pretty dead on, too.
     
  3. daisy7

    daisy7 Retired WS Staff

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    BBM. That's the first time I read that.

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/23/us/missouri-missing-girl/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
     
  4. mysteriew

    mysteriew A diamond in process

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    Normally I trust the national and most local media. But in this case, and the way certain news sources seem to be trying to create the news I am not trusting them too much right now.
     
  5. ~n/t~

    ~n/t~ New Member

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    ~n/t~ New Member

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  7. chieftess

    chieftess New Member

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    I was on the slow computer yesterday and didn't get to see the tape.

    JMHO..I see someone walking down the street. From the snippet on the CNN link, it looks to me as though the tree in front of the gas station is blocking the view of where this person was coming from. I don't see them emerging from trees/woods, but rather a short clip where the person is seen once they pass the tree in front of the gas station.

    If that didn't make sense, blame lack of coffee :)
     
  8. justamommy

    justamommy New Member

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    I disagree... LE should know which houses are vacant just by simply canvassing the area. The neighbors know which houses are vacant. If LE doesn't get an answer, ask a neighbor about the home they are not getting an answer at. As far as owners... deeds are public record in my county. I was very upset to find that not one, but two vacant houses were not searched immediately after Lisa disappeared. :banghead:

    I think LE should look at parents, but they should not be so narrow-minded to not think about searching elsewhere too. If Lisa was abducted then whomever took her has had plenty of time to get very far away with her and establish a new life with her. IMO
     
  9. Karmaa

    Karmaa CASA Advocate

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    I'm not sure how to link to a WS post, but it is right there on the timeline. Plus I read it in a MSM article back then - those exact words: "no holes" .

    Here is the WS timeline blurb:

    UPDATE at 2:00 p.m. October 4 presser Capt. Steve Young speaking—Parents’ story has no holes. Looking into neighbor that possibly saw Lisa being carried by the male. No suspects other than neighbor sighting.
     
  10. jjenny

    jjenny Well-Known Member

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    Well if he ever actually said it, I very much doubt he feels the same way today.
     
  11. norest4thewicked

    norest4thewicked True Crime Writer

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    Doesn't that support the fact that LE was NOT in judgment of the parents until they had gotten well into the investigation? This statement was the afternoon of the day Lisa first went missing.
     
  12. Karmaa

    Karmaa CASA Advocate

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    Sure it does. But I am certainly not faulting the police or their investigation. All I am saying is that we can't assume that Debbie did NOT tell LE the whole truth.

    For the record, there are some bad cops. And there are some bad investigations. But I assume that LE is doing the best job possible. I don't think LE is trying to railroad the family (at least not yet), but I think that an awful lot of people are jumping to conclusions when there is no evidence.
     
  13. mysteriew

    mysteriew A diamond in process

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    Actually when it is believed to be a stranger abduction less area searches are done. They may do a quick area search, but for the most part without some direction to indicate where to search it is believed to be wasted time to physically search.

    Where would you start if nothing was located near the crime scene? A half mile away? A mile? 5 miles? 10 miles? If it was a stranger abduction and they didn't dispose of the baby near the crime scene, the baby could have been taken to the next town, city or even out of state.
     
  14. indepmo

    indepmo Verified Expert

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  15. daisy7

    daisy7 Retired WS Staff

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    ~n/t~ New Member

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    FWIW....I have never seen a released unedited surveillance video possibly connected to an investigation. We're always left with if only we could see a few seconds more to the right or to the left or closer or....etc etc.
     
  17. TakeNote

    TakeNote Mother to little post it my boy wonder & Founding

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    how do they even know it was a man?

    looks like someone wearing a white robe or trench coat
     
  18. TakeNote

    TakeNote Mother to little post it my boy wonder & Founding

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    this is all i have to say :biggrin:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScKrmvMTgyA"]Eyewitness - Ms. Swan - YouTube[/ame]
     
  19. indepmo

    indepmo Verified Expert

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    Take this video for example:
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJoID7VwRtM"]Carlie Brucia Abduction - YouTube[/ame]

    I know this video should look familiar. Carlie Brucia Abduction

    It doesn't show the man walking just out of the screen, it shows him approach her, then later shows him leaving the area.

    I'd like to know if this guy sold this tape? The irony of GMA putting this out first? Seems to be a good piece of evidence for a defense.

    I would think you would at least see the man in the video until he is no longer visible on the video...
     
  20. Tuffy

    Tuffy Not really that tough...

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    Evidence like a cadaver dog signaling a positive hit for human decomp?


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