Nancy Cooper, 34, of Cary, N.C. #5

[Taximom]

Tigerlilly, welcome back although I'm sorry it's under these circumstances. It pains me that another true friend, loving mom, and overall decent person has been killed by someone she loved at one time. This brings back all the memories of Laci, Michelle Young, and so many others we've covered here. I'm really sorry it hits close to home for you. That has to be really difficult.

I just hope the message is getting out to be wary of your spouse if you are in this type of marital situation (and even worse, pregnant). (Not that Nancy was pregnant.)

 

[athy]

why can't it be some of these darn child abusers that are the ones killed!!!!

 

[philamena]

http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5iigPKisqwPK2b5krG8SL9zz8lKPg

Twin tearfully remembers former Edmonton woman slain in N.C. as 'best friend

CARY, N.C. — The sister of a former Edmonton woman whose body was found at a North Carolina construction site tearfully remembered her twin as her "best friend" and "soulmate."
At a news conference Thursday in Cary, N.C., Khrista Lister said her sister, Nancy Cooper, was her biggest supporter and her biggest fan

 

[JDB]

TigerLilly welcome back :blowkiss:
The more I think about this case the more I really think she was murdered Friday Night after the party or in the wee hours of Sat. and here is why.
Friends said Nancy was not herself at the party that Friday night. Which I think says she had something on her mind. This is what we heard she recently went to visit family in canada and was not allowed to take the kids.
We have heard no reports that anyone saw Nancy jogging on Sat. Why?

I think after visiting her family and being at the party Nancy decided she would tell him she wanted him to leave after she came home from the party and he went nuts.
STrangled or suffocated her No BFT there would have been splatter. New about the new sub divison being build and knew not many living there yet. Drove down to the end of the cul-de-sac with no lights on. Dipsoed of Nancy and then if the story is true about the store stopped and picked up cleaning supplies. All the time the 2 kids are fast asleep.

 

[Tigerlily]

Thank you all for the welcome back. I am still waiting to hear from my friends in Cary.

This really does hit so close to home for me, and it's not just proximity. I cannot stop crying and thinking about those little girls. I have a 2-yr-old daughter now and she so needs and loves me, mommy, so much at this stage that the thought of how she would be if I were ripped away from her breaks my heart and it makes me think how those 2 little girls must be feeling. I know kids at any stage would be devasted with the loss of a parent, especially a senseless murder, but I cannot stop thinking of how the little toddler brain works and just really wants mommy and cannot really comprehend the true loss so young. Thank God the twin sister and family has these girls now.

 

[RR0004]

Holy moly...I can't even get through all the previous posts on the other threads...but I did want to chime in on the ex parte issue with the loss of custody. In my state, the spouse can go to court and claim whatever he likes about the "danger" the other spouse presents to the children, and the judge, weighing the seriousness of the allegations made, and whether there's substantiation, can remove that parent from the home and assign full custody to the spouse requesting it. The person who is having the allegations lodged against them doesn't get notified of this court proceeding. If the judge concurs, the order is signed and LE presents it and the other spouse is then escorted out of their home. Yes, they are entitled to a hearing...and it's generally a couple of weeks after the initial emergency order is made, but they can seek counsel and request an "emergency hearing" within a couple of days to address the claims. Now, I realize the grandparents and aunt are in this case not the "spouse", but indirectly they are representing Nancy.

 

[swimmom]

TigerLilly welcome back :blowkiss:
The more I think about this case the more I really think she was murdered Friday Night after the party or in the wee hours of Sat. and here is why.
Friends said Nancy was not herself at the party that Friday night. Which I think says she had something on her mind. This is what we heard she recently went to visit family in canada and was not allowed to take the kids.
We have heard no reports that anyone saw Nancy jogging on Sat. Why?

I think after visiting her family and being at the party Nancy decided she would tell him she wanted him to leave after she came home from the party and he went nuts.
STrangled or suffocated her No BFT there would have been splatter. New about the new sub divison being build and knew not many living there yet. Drove down to the end of the cul-de-sac with no lights on. Dipsoed of Nancy and then if the story is true about the store stopped and picked up cleaning supplies. All the time the 2 kids are fast asleep.

I think you are correct, but I would like to add my opinion on after/before he went to the store, he drove through a car wash. Preferably one that does not have surveillance cameras. Clean car...no dirt in tires or under car, could even vacuum it out if he wanted to. If there is little or no blood in the house, and nothing in the cars, what does he have to fear for people searching the house? It would also be much easier to dress a body that is not bleeding. IMO

 

[tarheelfan78]

I have spent the last hour or so trying to catch up but I wanted to let Nancyfriend know that his(I think this was established earlier) family, friends, and Nancy's family have constantly been in my prayers.

 

[Blink34]

Holy moly...I can't even get through all the previous posts on the other threads...but I did want to chime in on the ex parte issue with the loss of custody. In my state, the spouse can go to court and claim whatever he likes about the "danger" the other spouse presents to the children, and the judge, weighing the seriousness of the allegations made, and whether there's substantiation, can remove that parent from the home and assign full custody to the spouse requesting it. The person who is having the allegations lodged against them doesn't get notified of this court proceeding. If the judge concurs, the order is signed and LE presents it and the other spouse is then escorted out of their home. Yes, they are entitled to a hearing...and it's generally a couple of weeks after the initial emergency order is made, but they can seek counsel and request an "emergency hearing" within a couple of days to address the claims. Now, I realize the grandparents and aunt are in this case not the "spouse", but indirectly they are representing Nancy.

As usual, RR is right I dug out the ole LSAT notes, and it varies by state. In some, you may be entitled to file exparte without notification and/or the right to appear at it. In some states it is different. However, as you point out, it is generally reserved for spouse or legal guardians of record.
I will say that in the limited research I have had time to do, I could NOT find a single other case where grandparents in a state that does not represent their rights to visitation or custody of a child with a living parent, were granted an ex parte order AND allowed to leave the US.
I get the whole parens patriae and best interest of child and am thrilled to see it, I would LOVE to get a copy of the transcript of the actual hearing

 

[Blink34]

I think you are correct, but I would like to add my opinion on after/before he went to the store, he drove through a car wash. Preferably one that does not have surveillance cameras. Clean car...no dirt in tires or under car, could even vacuum it out if he wanted to. If there is little or no blood in the house, and nothing in the cars, what does he have to fear for people searching the house? It would also be much easier to dress a body that is not bleeding. IMO

Isnt it correct he allowed them to search the house and cars pre-warrant?
A better description would be to "look around", but I thought I read that

 

[wherego]

It pains me that another true friend, loving mom, and overall decent person has been killed by someone she loved at one time. .

Oh, they have already had the trial?
Perhaps you will share with us who the jury convicted.

 

[calidreamin]

TigerLilly welcome back :blowkiss:
The more I think about this case the more I really think she was murdered Friday Night after the party or in the wee hours of Sat. and here is why.
Friends said Nancy was not herself at the party that Friday night. Which I think says she had something on her mind. This is what we heard she recently went to visit family in canada and was not allowed to take the kids.
We have heard no reports that anyone saw Nancy jogging on Sat. Why?

I think after visiting her family and being at the party Nancy decided she would tell him she wanted him to leave after she came home from the party and he went nuts.
STrangled or suffocated her No BFT there would have been splatter. New about the new sub divison being build and knew not many living there yet. Drove down to the end of the cul-de-sac with no lights on. Dipsoed of Nancy and then if the story is true about the store stopped and picked up cleaning supplies. All the time the 2 kids are fast asleep.

That makes a whole lot of sense JDB. She got home, an argument ensude and he killed her. In my mind if he had planned it I would think he would have already had the cleaning supplies ahead of time.

 

[calidreamin]

Oh, they have already had the trial?
Perhaps you will share with us who the jury convicted.

Why so hostile?

 

[JDB]

That makes a whole lot of sense JDB. She got home, an argument ensude and he killed her. In my mind if he had planned it I would think he would have already had the cleaning supplies ahead of time.

I do not think it was planned.It happened at the spur of the moment. But within a blink of a second it can be premeadiated.The strange part is this case has the Peterson case the cutts case all combined.

One thing I forgot where is this Mystery lady Carrie? U would think she would have been found. Now the weird part and maybe I read wrong but did not he say her friends know this Carrie also? But no one but him has mentioned her.

 

[RR0004]

As usual, RR is right I dug out the ole LSAT notes, and it varies by state. In some, you may be entitled to file exparte without notification and/or the right to appear at it. In some states it is different. However, as you point out, it is generally reserved for spouse or legal guardians of record.
I will say that in the limited research I have had time to do, I could NOT find a single other case where grandparents in a state that does not represent their rights to visitation or custody of a child with a living parent, were granted an ex parte order AND allowed to leave the US.
I get the whole parens patriae and best interest of child and am thrilled to see it, I would LOVE to get a copy of the transcript of the actual hearing

What will really be interesting to see is if he does in fact contest it. The grandparents used the powerball and won this round. It was a smart legal maneuver...especially as I'm sure they wanted to bring the children to Canada for the funeral. BC would not necessarily have to agree to that...so they struck him with the custody order. As it happened last night, I'm sure it was no doubt done close to 5pm. Then there's no chance for an immediate appeal. Unfortunately, men in divorce cases have been known to use this ex parte approach to get the wife out of the house.

 

[Blink34]

Oh, they have already had the trial?
Perhaps you will share with us who the jury convicted.

Wherego-
I responded at length to one of your posts yesterday, actually carrying it to a second thread to make sure you saw it. I find it interesting that you elected not to respond to it, yet post such an antagonistic question to taximom when there are up to 200 viewers on this thread at a time over the last few days. I am trying to understand why that is your only contribution to what amounts to hundreds of pages of posts, and Miss TaxiMom' opinion is shared by the majority- why?

 

[Blink34]

What will really be interesting to see is if he does in fact contest it. The grandparents used the powerball and won this round. It was a smart legal maneuver...especially as I'm sure they wanted to bring the children to Canada for the funeral. BC would not necessarily have to agree to that...so they struck him with the custody order. As it happened last night, I'm sure it was no doubt done close to 5pm. Then there's no chance for an immediate appeal. Unfortunately, men in divorce cases have been known to use this ex parte approach to get the wife out of the house.

LOL- 4:47PM to be exact, old trick- I still commend the judge, it's unusual and I cant find a precedent-

 

[tarheelfan78]

WTVD 11 is reporting that the crime scene tape is gone from the house what exactly is the next step?

 

[wicket]

This is so reminescent of Laci's - Scott cleaned up also. Nancy sounds like just a sweetheart of a person and mother -thankfully the two girls have good and loving grandparents and family to surround them with love. They will need this unconditional love for years to come.
Is there an epidemic in this country against women? It's so similar to open hunting season in the fall - where do these men get the idea that they can just erase a person from the face of the earth? We just had the Entwistle case here and that one shook everyone to the core.
I'm very grateful that I survived a bad marriage and wonder too if I could have been a statistic. I was blind to the danger - thinking it wouldn't ever happen to me. How close I came a few times - he's dead now at his own hands.
Good for your LE in NC that are working very hard behind the scenes to dot the i's and cross the t's.

 

[calidreamin]

I do not think it was planned.It happened at the spur of the moment. But within a blink of a second it can be premeadiated.The strange part is this case has the Peterson case the cutts case all combined.

One thing I forgot where is this Mystery lady Carrie? U would think she would have been found. Now the weird part and maybe I read wrong but did not he say her friends know this Carrie also? But no one but him has mentioned her.

Carrie is still a mystery to me also. I know her husband said that was who she was running with that morning. But to what I have followed so far has nothing about her. Maybe he made carrie up?