NBC Action News new timeline - 11/02/2011

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  1. SurfieTX

    SurfieTX New Member

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    http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/news/local_news/investigations/baby-lisa-irwin-source-details-timeline-of-day-and-night-of-disappearance#ixzz1caEbAp8R

    This is a very interesting timeline to me for a variety of reasons. First and foremost, PN went to talk to detectives yesterday and now this new "source" has come out and voila, a new timeline.

    Secondly, it makes me wonder what the "usual" day was like in the Bradwin home, specifically what JI's regular work hours were. People tend to be creatures of habit for the most part.

    Observations: JI returns home at 2:30. This may or may not be his usual time and I'm guessing not because the neighbor comes over sometime between 2:30 and 4:30. I speculate that they had some afternoon "adult time" every day. If I had to guess, DB went outside for a smoke with her and told her that JI was going to be gone for the night...until 10:30. DB has PN take her to the store, but I would bet good money it was on the ruse of buying baby food and the wine box was hidden or said to be PN's.

    So, everyone leaves (neighbor and brother) until JI leaves for work. Then they return and party. Lo and behold, when JI is supposed to return at 10:30, everyone leaves and lights go out.

    When JI returns, he is mad about the lights and the screen (how he could see the screen at that time of night, I'll never know but okay). He goes in the house "angry" because of the cost of the electricity. Checks in on the boys first ?, then DB ? and then Lisa ?; none of this is very clear because their interviews have given different scenarios.

    There are 1 or 2 guns and a bat in the bedroom, but JI doesn't think it is necessary for whatever reason to get any kind of weapon against an intruder before checking on his family. But, they do realize the phones are gone and grab a flashlight even though DB herself said she didn't want to go outside because she would be "afraid" of what she might find.

    I'm really rambling, but this new timeline sheds a few new spotlights on different things and people, at least to me.
     
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  3. Melanie

    Melanie Inactive

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    I'm not comfortable with this time-gap:

    6:30 p.m. to 10:30 p.m.
    -Neighbor’s daughter plays inside with the boys of Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin.
    -Deborah Bradley and neighbor consume alcohol and smoke cigarettes on front porch.
    -Bradley consumed approximately five to ten glasses of wine.

    What happened during that time? Was there any interaction between the children, DB, and the neighbor? Did the boys go check on their sister during that time? Was there bath time, changing into jammies time, homework? Any snacks? Did they play outside? Where did the invisi-kitty come into play?

    Assuming mommy had to keep going into the kitchen to refill her glass, did she ever check on baby Lisa? Did she go to the restroom? Did the neighbor? Did they hear baby Lisa playing in her crib or jumping up and down. The last time DB checked on her baby Lisa was standing in her crib? Did she just fall asleep for the next 4 hours?

    If there are 3 children in the home left unattended to play to their hearts content, they will make LOTS of noise. Enough noise to wake baby Lisa IMHO.

    I sure wish we had more of a breakdown for this 4 hour time frame.

    MOO

    Mel
     
  4. Irish_Eyes

    Irish_Eyes New Member

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    What I find weird is that Baby Lisa is in her crib at 4:30 and then out sometime after (presumably to eat the baby food DB bought her) and then is back in her crib by 6:30 for the night??? Something is wrong here. Newborns don't even sleep that much.
     
  5. curiositycat

    curiositycat The one thing that doesn't abide by majority rule

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    I wonder why dad didn't take the kids and mom to the store? I know that she does not have a driver's license. I can't help but wonder if dad did something during that time? I have never really understood why LE didn't give him a LD test.

    There is no proof, that LI was alive at 6:40PM, when the mom closed her bedroom door and went back to her wine drinking. MOO
     
  6. Breathe

    Breathe Autumn is a second spring when every leaf is a flo

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    I wondered that too. Was the crib also a baby sitter or a place to keep Lisa safe to play (instead of also having playpen)? Maybe Lisa was put in her crib during smoke breaks outside to keep her safe?

    If Lisa was napping at 4:30pm, would she be ready to go down for the night at 6:30pm? Depends, I suppose (on her cold, medication, etc).
     
  7. matou

    matou #los2188

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    When and where did the 4 year old go to sleep?
     
  8. chasing.halos

    chasing.halos Where is Kyron?

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    WTFrackle? I don't know how so many follow this case... drives me batty and nothing seems to make sense. :pullhair: :pullhair: :pullhair:
     
  9. frankie069

    frankie069 New Member

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    You know, speaking of the invisikitty, has anyone even seen this thing. When they were outside their home, the news crews, them moving from one home to the other and then moving to another etc.. Has anyone seen anyone at all holding this kitten. Where the heck is the kitten???
     
  10. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    I don't understand why the neighbor needed to check on Lisa's crib when daddy was home to do it.
     
  11. matou

    matou #los2188

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    This is what I'm flipping over. Either Lisa was very sick and kept sleeping or the crib was being used as the babysitter. We know she can hold herself up as per the photos of Lisa and the one of her at the door window. Can she crawl? I haven't watched the videos of her.
     
  12. Darcyline

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    I am assuming the crib was a babysitter. It sounds harsh, but I know a lot of parents who sometimes do that. Stick baby in crib, close the door, be "free" for awhile.
     
  13. MissJames

    MissJames a yellowflutterby changed my life : )

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    The crib mattress was too high in the crib to be safe for anything ,IMO.

    There's a reason none of this makes sense. The truth has not come out. :furious:
     
  14. Whisperer

    Whisperer New Member

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    So, we now have Lisa, seen by a neighbor in her crib @4:30 and apparently fine. I would want her to elaborate on the word "apparently. Does that mean she was sleeping? playing? reading? What?

    Now this baby is in her crib @ 4:30. DB wants everyone to believe she put her to bed at 6:40? Does anyone else think this is all insanity? Who is this neighbor and why did she say she was apparently fine. I am stuck on that word.

    For all intentional purposes, we now have Lisa in that crib for many more hours than we thought. When was she PUT in the crib that day? Looking at the crib mattress, it wasn't very far down. In fact it looked like an energetic ten month old could climb out of it.
     
  15. norest4thewicked

    norest4thewicked Karma is a beautiful thing ~

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    I don't really think that the kitten will play a huge part in this in the long run, but I guess anything is possible with this screwy case! :banghead:
     
  16. Whisperer

    Whisperer New Member

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    Anyone else beginning to wonder if DB was home the entire night?
     
  17. frankie069

    frankie069 New Member

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    I dont think so either, its just, I am sitting here going, where is that kitty they were so quick to mention. Supposedly she got it that day, so where was she when she got it.. Might help as to another timeline.. Which is just what we need.
     
  18. Whisperer

    Whisperer New Member

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    Maybe she found the kitten wherever she put Lisa....:waitasec:
     
  19. norest4thewicked

    norest4thewicked Karma is a beautiful thing ~

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    If DB admits to putting her back to bed at 6:30 (after she was already in bed at 4:30) and she doesn't even remember checking on her at 10:30 (even though she lied and said she HAD checked on her at 10:30), that little girl could have been left in the crib and forgotten. I now don't think that she even bothered to go look in on little Lisa before she passed out. Wow!
     
  20. Patty G

    Patty G Retired WS Staff

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    Maybe we should compare the timeline that NBC Action News has to Kansas City News.
    http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/01/3243027/a-look-back-at-a-critical-night.html

    There is no mention in the KC timeline that the neighbor was there at 6:00 PM, or checked on the baby. It states Debra put Lisa to bed at 6:40 PM and the neighbor went to buy alcohol and returned at 7:00 PM

    Odd that it states in the NBC article that the neighbor's 4 year old daughter saw Baby Lisa and that she was safe.

    6:30 p.m.
    -Neighbor returns and neighbor’s daughter sees Baby Lisa apparently safe.
    -Deborah Bradley puts Lisa in crib.


    Read more: http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/ne...-day-and-night-of-disappearance#ixzz1caKKV39l
    Which one is accurate?
     
  21. MissJames

    MissJames a yellowflutterby changed my life : )

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    Babies generally start crawling around 6 mos old. I've had 2 kids who started walking at 11 mos,4 at 12 mos and my youngest had just turned 3yrs old when he took his first steps because he's DD.
    Baby Lisa was almost 11 mos old the day she disappeared.Unless she had developmental problems she would be crawling ,pulling up to stand and "cruising" ,which is walking while holding on to something,like the edge of a chair or the crib rails.JMO
     

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