Discussion in 'Crimes in the News' started by OkieGranny, Mar 2, 2015.
Yeah, hmmmm..... is right.
Sounds suspicious to me.
Hmm, you say. Ditto.
How do three men in a van 'approach' security guards in a truck on I-95 at 6:50pm, Sun.? At 60-70mph?
Had the guards already pulled over w their mechanical problems?
Had the guards already phoned home-base/office, AAA, or wrecker service re those problems?
Lemme guess, somebody new-ish on the Transvalue payroll?
Fortunately, no one was physically injured. It will be interesting to see developments.
ETA: at spot price of $1206.oo US per ounce, $4,000,000 gold ~ 3316 ounces, or ~ 207 pounds of gold.
Depending on packaging, 3 men could handle fairly easily.
OK hmm is my first reaction also. However, maybe the armed men did something in advance to the vehicle to cause mechanical problems? If it was planned out well I could see this scenerio.
Hmmm sounds to me like this maybe an inside job. This sure does sound like a set up to me.
The pure fact that the robbers just happened to be in a van ( to carry the loot) they had guns
but not one fired. They approach two armed guards and told them to get down (they complied).
Here's the article from WRAL, Raleigh: http://www.wral.com/-4m-in-gold-reported-stolen-during-armed-robbery-along-i-95-in-wilson/14484323/
The article also states that it was a tractor trailer being driven by the two guards, not just an armored truck. I'd have to wonder about what kai said, above. Had the armed robbers who just happened to be in a van, ready to transport barrels of gold, messed with the tractor trailer earlier, to cause mechanical failure?
If not, I don't see how it could possibly be random, and not an inside job.
Even if the guards weren't involved, it was definitely an inside job. Someone tipped the robbers that a tractor trailer would be transporting four million in gold. A tractor trailer is the stupidest way to transport gold. Armored trucks are bullet proof so guards can hunker down inside them.
Hinky meter: Enabled.
My first reaction, tractor trailer or armored truck, is WHY take $4M worth of gold on a "road trip" from Florida to Massachusetts. If the total weight is only approximately 207 lbs., why not fly it undetected what is on the transport? The distance itself yields too many possibilities for a mechanical breakdown or worse happening during the trip. Agree, it definitely appears to be an inside job, however, with the robbers knowing exactly what truck was the carrier and they were ready to take the loot.
Just stupid on the part of the shippers.
"Owner Jesus Rodriguez said he was unable to comment about the matter but confirmed the guards were driving a tractor-trailer. Neither was injured, he said. The company is cooperating with authorities and is offering a $50,000 reward for any information that leads to an arrest." bbm sbm
From http://transvalueinc.net. Founded in Miami in 1993.
"....TransValue, Inc. enjoyed much success in this market during the early years due to their wealth of knowledge in the Latin American markets and their personalized customer service...." .
"TransValue, Inc. also transports other valuable commodities such as Precious Metals, Precious Stones, Jewelry, Credit Cards, Data Tapes, and other such valuable commodities. Please note, TransValue, Inc. does not ship any HAZMAT material or Art Work."
Other valuable commodities?
"TransValues armored shipments are insured through the companys
all risk insurance policy up to $100,000,000.00."
I wonder what the deductible is.
"Transvalue Inc. Detective and Armored Car Services" 47 full time employees.
^Detective Services ^.
Oh, maybe Mr R, the owner, can assign some employees to solve the case?
What do you do with gold bars after you steal them? Buy a house, if they will accept payment in that form? A car? I do not get it. Definitely sounds like an inside job to me.
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^Good point. Why not transport by air? http://transvalueinc.net
home page has pix of armored trucks, bank-type vaults, etc. and
offers air transport, judging by the pix of L10-11, w Transvalue logo on tail.
A map at their 'Location Network" page shows transport within the US,
as well as Latin America (SA & Central), Europe, Asia, and Australia,
so clearly, not just ground transport.
Hmmm...."much success.....due to ...knowledge of Latin American Markets".
Cash transactions and money laundering on a massive scale come to mind.
On a smaller scale, it's been known for a long time that undocumented workers in this country are at high risk of crime due to keeping assets in cash at home rather than using banks. Many businesses probably do much the same with gold conversion being popular and "universal". If from a business that is cooking the books, the amount officially declared in this case might not even be close to the true amount. Just a thought. What recourse do they have? None. The same as the bottom level worker who has his grocery cash for the week stolen. What's he going to do? Report money he "doesn't have" for work he "doesn't do" by someone who "doesn't exist"?
This one will be interesting to watch.
(I used to courier cash from banks to the Federal Reserve in the trunk of my car, hahah, in a VERY rural area that had used UPS for that before me, lol. No one ever knew except the armed Fed Reserve guards when they watched me unload)
“There’s some gentlemen, at a truck, with handcuffs at (mile marker) 114, walking in the middle of the highway on I-95,” a woman caller told an emergency dispatcher. “It’s dark. It’s wet, and I didn’t know what else to do except keep driving.”
Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2015/03...und-wilson-gold-heist.html?rh=1#storylink=cpy
I wonder if it was an inside job by the owner of Transvalue for insurance fraud? I suppose LE/FBI is chasing down all these angles.
One of the actual calls here, and it just seems very weird. Jmo
This link has a longer version of the call.
How many vehicles drove by and saw men removing things from a semi and putting it into a white van on the side of the road? That is a lot of potential witnesses.
I would expect those containers of gold each would have at least a tracking gps devise. I cannot imagine an insurance company not demanding on in the rider.
These poor guys got paid $10hr to guard 4 million in gold and it was only 2 of them in a broken down truck. Wth. It should have been 5 guards in the truck plus a followed armed escort. I wouldnt let this company transport my dog let alone 4 million big ones. The insurance company may want to rethink their policy.
I'd like to know if the "gold" was ever in the truck to begin with.
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