NC NC - Asha Degree, 9, Shelby, 14 Feb 2000

Discussion in '2000's Missing' started by fourboys, Nov 10, 2004.

  1. T rex

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    Did you see all the infractions? I don't know if I would believe anything this man says or not. It will be interesting to see though.
    If he really does know something about it I seriously doubt he just found it out four months ago. It would probably be because he was somehow involved.
    Why didn't he just contact the authorities? Doesn't he know that people in prison don't like snitches? He doesn't sound too awful smart to me.
     


  2. Eireboy

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    Lets hope that this will bring an end to this case and reunite Asha with her loved ones. It could be that this guy is telling the truth but maybe the source of his information is just looking for attention
     
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  3. Malene

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    Prayers for Asha and her loved ones...

    Among many disturbing and weird things in this case:

    1. The Turners find some items in their shed the day after Ashas disappearence, one of the things being a picture of a young girl. They assume the items doesn’t have anything to do with Asha but initially hand over the picture to LE but not the other items?
    Strange IMO, why hand in only the picture when the items are found together?

    2. The driver (Jeff) that saw what he assumed was a young child/girl. He found it so strange that he turned around and circled by, I believe two or three times, before he saw her run into the woods?
    Why, if he found it so strange and made the effort of turning around more than once, didn’t he stop the truck and got out to call for her? Further more call the police?
     
  4. Malene

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    Deleted, posted twice
     
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  5. SAMS

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    I’ve always thought the same about the Turners. Why even keep the items? Were they looked into at all? What about the neighbor in the house next door? Could there be a relative or someone in the family that could’ve been responsible? MOO IMO
     
  6. Malene

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    As far as I’ve read, I don’t think they have been named POI nor have I seen that they haven’t been at any point.

    I may have misread, but there is The Turners as in the family who owned the shed and there was also a reverend Turner mentioned, as a neighbor of the Turner family?
     
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  7. SAMS

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    Not sure but there’s a phenomenal write up on Reddit (hope I can mention) about this case and from what I remember, there was also a close neighbor that had several dogs out that night and he doesn’t recall any of them barking at all. Wonder if he was looked into. I can’t shake the feeling that someone saw an opportunity, and acted on it. Was it a neighbor? A visitor to the home of the Turners? A driver passing Asha on that dark highway that night? I mean we have two different witnesses that saw her walking and both have stated they were concerned with her being alone at night, walking- but what about the driver that would’ve taken advantage of the situation? MOO
     
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  8. SAMS

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    I think Asha was in that shed that night. I also believe the witnesses accounts, and that she did run into that shed when the first witness turned around twice to ask if she was okay and scared her. Did someone else see her go into the shed? I swear this case keeps me up at night. MOO
     
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  9. SAMS

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    One of the items found in the shed was a pencil with “Atlanta” imprinted on it. It was recognized by Ashas parents as being one of the family reunion party favors from the year before. Not to mention the candy wrappers from the same candy Asha had in her possession at the time, her favorite. Either she was there or someone with her things was. Maybe both. MOO
     
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  10. Malene

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    Thank you for responding :)
    I did read that too here in this tread.

    That’s the thing. Human recollection is triggy. Maybe the neighbor didn’t hear the dogs barking, butthat doesn’t mean they didn’t bark.
    The two witnesses on the highway for an example. The one that saw a person, which he actually believed was a grown woman/an adult. When come to knowthe circumstances that a little child is missing in the area, his is doubting his first recollection and somehow it end up that he can place Asha there.
    The witness that turned the truck around also believe he had seen her. I read he pass a polygraph. Well of course he did, if he sincerely believe he saw her. That’s just a matter of believe, not actuality.


    I really don’t know what to believe. I have concerns that the investigation may be too focused on the highwaysightings and the perhaps the shed.



    The torsing of the candywrapping a long the highway and shed for that matter. She seems/or least is portrayed as a wellbehaved kid with a strickt but loving upbringing. Would she be eating candy and just let go of the wrapping as she ate?
     
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  11. SAMS

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    I never saw where candy wrapping was found along the highway. Do you recall where you read that?
    IMO, if Asha really left that house that night, we can pretty much say that what she was taught and her mannerisms had no relevance at that point. It was against all odds that she would be out walking at night alone, in the dark- that she was so fiercely afraid of. MOO
     
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    Bumping this fine post with candy and other important info.
     
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  13. Malene

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    I read it somewhere in this tread, it may have been someones assumption. I’ll look for it.
    You’re right, if she left the house willingly her mannerisms were far beyond gone. I can’t comprihend that she did anyway. But I guess thats what the evidence suggest so far?

    Thank you for responding and your insights
     
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  14. Malene

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    Thank you Dotr :)
     
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  15. SAMS

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    Oh thank you for the convo! What do you think happened to Asha, or do you have a theory as of now? This case is so perplexing so many questions!
     
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    Its been a few days since the Prisoner said he knew what happened to Asha. Why did the Police say that they will wait until the covid calms down in his Prison to talk to him. Its 2020 they can interview him by video link. There lack of urgency leads me to believe that they must think that this guy is not credible.
     
  17. T rex

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    I get that feeling too. I don't have a lot of faith in the grooming theories anymore, with a few exceptions. Although I don't know how likely they are.
    Not only do I believe Asha left that night on her very own, I believe she left for her very own reasons. Who ever is responsible probably just happened onto the whole situation and took advantage. It still may have been someone that
    she knew. In fact I think there's a good chance of it. On a rural highway and at that time of night there's only a few people that are going to be passing through. Truckers of course and locals ( for various reasons). We know that Asha fled from the truck driver so who would she stop for? Someone that called out her name possibly. Someone that spoke to her with authority perhaps, or maybe they just physically forced her into a vehicle. I don't know but like I said most of the grooming scenarios just don't seem all that likely. Just my opinion.
     
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  18. dotr

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    Of all the missing child cases here, this is one where i still have a glimmer of hope, that Asha is still alive, imo, speculation, fwiw.

    Standing by, lol
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    Exactly!
     
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  20. SAMS

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    With you on this. Lol
     
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