Found Deceased NC - Hania Noelia Aguilar, 13, abducted, Lumberton, 5 Nov 2018 #3

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Nemellotus said:
Green SUV was stolen...From where? From who? Cameras around? Fingerprints must be in the green SUV... Need info on this... The vehicle she was warming up and standing next to is not the same green SUV?
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The SUV was stolen during the abduction, not before. Unfortunately the way this has been reported has generated a lot of confusion. The abductor was on foot, pushed Hania into the green SUV, and stole it while kidnapping Hania.
 
FactFinder3000 said:
The SUV was stolen during the abduction, not before. Unfortunately the way this has been reported has generated a lot of confusion. The abductor was on foot, pushed Hania into the green SUV, and stole it while kidnapping Hania.
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BBM
Has it been confirmed the person walking in the videos is the perp?
 
kkdj said:
BBM
Has it been confirmed the person walking in the videos is the perp?
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No, but the witness reports were that the perp came out of nowhere and pushed Hania. The perp was on foot, it appears, but we don't know for sure. We don't have any info that the perp jumped out of another car or out of another residence. But it's not confirmed if the video pedestrian is the perp.

jmo
 
PommyMommy said:
Yes, but I'm not sure we can link it here. Reporting this post to ask a mod. MOO
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Thanks for asking. based on the snip below from our SM policy, it should not be linked or discussed.

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Remember when @Shin Masamura posted that link of another abduction which was similar in so many ways (abducted from driveway, car jacked with own vehicle, vehicle abandoned)?

Well, fwiw I googled “drug cartel yellow” to see who’s colors are yellow, (results pending) and the first thing that came up is this (maybe the bandana is gold?):

Who is the biggest cartel in Mexico?
Sinaloa Cartel
Joaquín Guzmán Loera, a.k.a. "El Chapo" - Captured on 22 February 2014 - Escaped on 11 July 2015 - Recaptured on 8 January 2016.

Two things to note.

1. Off topic but interesting:
I just saw on the news El Chapo’s trial is underway:
El Chapo Trial Day 1: Defense Claims Guzman Is Middle Management – Rolling Stone

2. The link that @Shin Masamura posted re: practically identical circumstances involved the same cartel as El Chapo, Sinaloa.

O/T, but wanted to note these coincidences because I thought they were interesting.

Standby for further information on this cartel as related to Robeson County.

—-FTR IF there is a gang or cartel link in anyway, and I say IF, then check this out:

“Garza opened by providing an overview, who and what the cartels are and the different regions they are in. Almonte took over the rest of the course and discussed hotel rooms being used by drug and human traffickers.

“We talked about how to address that type of criminal activity at the hotels and motels here in North Carolina,” Almonte said.”

(This would hotels and motels more on the radar as a possible location of Hania.)

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“Mexican cartels essentially use patron saints or legitimate Catholic saints and pray to them for protection from law enforcement. One of the more popular saints Mexican cartels rely on is Santa Muerte, or the Saint of Death.

“She is the most popular one right now being used by the Mexican cartel and gangs for protection from law enforcement,” Almonte said. “However, there are people in Mexico and in the U.S. that pray to Santa Muerte that are not involved in criminal activity.”

Another popular Catholic saint being misused is St. Jude, the patron saint of lost causes and difficult situations.”
—more on other saints at link

Alamance County law enforcement schooled on Mexican cartels

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From an above link we know that MS-13 is in Robeson County.

“In many instances, the Sinaloa cartel and other Mexican cartels partner with street gangs in the US - particularly the MS-13”

These maps show how Mexican cartels dominate the US drug market

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MS-13 and Sex Trafficking

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The Connection between the Mara Salvatrucha and Human Trafficking • Human Trafficking Search

“The Mara Salvatrucha, better known by their acronym MS-13, is one of the largest and most violent transnational criminal organizations in the world. Their motto is “Kill, Rape, Control.

Since the 1980s, MS-13 members have typically engaged in a wide range of violent and criminal activity including, drug distribution, murder, rape, prostitution, robbery, home invasions, immigration offenses, kidnapping, carjacking/auto thefts, and vandalism. More recently there has been a rise in MS-13 engaging in human trafficking.”

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“In the United States, victims of MS-13 tend to be Latino immigrant girls or girls from the Northern Triangle countries who came into the country as unaccompanied minors.”

(I realize Hania is not unaccompanied)

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Robeson county gangs climb to more than 60

“RED SPRINGS, N.C.(WBTW)-The idea of gangs in Robeson county isn't a new concept. But with the high amount of violent crimes in the county, it is something law enforcement is focusing on all over the county. “

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Robeson County is one of most violent in state | N.C. Academic Center for Excellence

“LUMBERTON — Tough doesn’t always cut it here. Not in this sprawling county, where the murder rate is four times the national average and young people are twice as likely as teens in other parts of the state to die before they’re old enough to vote.

These are the grim facts of life in Robeson County...”

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““What I found was, Robeson County is having a lot of big-city problems in a rural setting,” Smokowski said. “Nationally, there aren’t a lot of places like this.”“

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“Strickland says drugs, poverty, domestic violence, and gangs are all reasons why the murder rate in the county is so high.“

Robeson County - A Deadly County

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Spurred by slayings, Robeson County wages a fight against gangs

“Part of Hernandez wants to heed their advice. He knows he is fighting a losing battle. When he took the job in 2009, an estimated 150 gang members roamed the streets in Robeson County. Today, Hernandez conservatively estimates, there are more than 500 members in at least 64 gangs.

“Those gang members are breaking into homes, robbing drug dealers at gunpoint, buying and selling drugs, and committing other crimes.””

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Recent violence, crime and gangs subject of Lumberton town hall forum

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Top 10 most dangerous cities in North Carolina, according to the FBI

“Lumberton is the most dangerous city in North Carolina, according to FBI crime data.”

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MS-13 a threat to North Carolina

“MS -13 is involved in drug trafficking, robbery, larceny, human trafficking, extortion, racketeering, kidnapping, and arms trafficking. They have allies in the Mexican drug cartels and they are brutal and unforgiving.

Gang members are known by the tattoos that cover their bodies, including their faces.“

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“During one meeting, according to investigators and news reports, the gang members discussed the gang’s structure and its expansion plans, the need to identify individuals co-operating with law enforcement, using an apartment to hold individuals they kidnap...”

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“Clearly, the MS-13 gang is a growing threat to the citizens of North Carolina and the nation.“

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Here’s another thought. It seems these gangs try to target younger Hispanic people at achool. There are many articles on this but this post is already getting very long.

I wonder about gang activity at Hania’s school. Did she resist, etc?
 
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Whiskers16 said:
Thanks for asking. based on the snip below from our SM policy, it should not be linked or discussed.

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Thanks, Whiskers. I've seen exceptions made occasionally and thought it was worth asking. ;) MOO
 
The SUV was stolen during the abduction, not before. Unfortunately the way this has been reported has generated a lot of confusion. The abductor was on foot, pushed Hania into the green SUV, and stole it while kidnapping Hania.

---Question: Was the green SUV the vehicle Hania was "warming up"? It had SC plates... Very confusing the way this has been reported.
 
Nemellotus said:
The SUV was stolen during the abduction, not before. Unfortunately the way this has been reported has generated a lot of confusion. The abductor was on foot, pushed Hania into the green SUV, and stole it while kidnapping Hania.

---Question: Was the green SUV the vehicle Hania was "warming up"? It had SC plates... Very confusing the way this has been reported.
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It is the same vehicle. It is green and has SC plates.
 
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