NC NC - Onslow Co., WhtFem Skeletal 564UFNC, 20-30, off Bear Creek Rd, Dec'91

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  1. waltzingmatilda

    waltzingmatilda Verified Insider-Roy Moore

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    http://www.wect.com/Global/story.asp?S=11941299

    The Onslow County Sheriff's Office has released reconstruction photos of what a murder victim may have looked like.

    The case goes back to 1991 when hunters discovered skeleton remains in Bear Creak. In the last month this case has received new interest. After receiving a tip in January two investigators from the Sheriff's Office traveled to Florida to conduct several interviews in the case. The Sheriff's Office will not say what they learned but is reporting that the trip was " beneficial."



    Hopefully, some family will receive closure after all these years.
     
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    there is a Namus profile for this UID with 6 rule outs:

    https://identifyus.org/cases/5966

    Rhonda Baucom 1958 North Carolina
    Gail Katz-Bierenbaum 1956 New York
    Misty Mock 1966 Washington
    Patricia Schmidt 1964 Virginia
    Karen Spencer 1972 Ohio
    Constance Streif 1960 Texas
     
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    Irish_Eyes Well-Known Member

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    Updated list of rule-outs per NamUs:

    Rhonda Baucom 1958 North Carolina
    Frankie Hurst 1963 South Carolina
    Gail Katz-Bierenbaum 1956 New York
    Alice Klug 1962 Virginia
    Misty Mock 1966 Washington
    Patricia Schmidt 1964 Virginia
    Tiffany Sessions 1968 Florida
    Karen Spencer 1972 Ohio
    Constance Streif 1960 Texas
     
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    Wanting2Help Well-Known Member

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    The face shape is similar, but its a bad photo of Dolly.

    Does anyone know if the hair would be completely gone in a year?
     
  8. webrocket

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    I would say it depends. I would think in a natural state of decomposition, no. however, if there was alot of animal activity then who knows what can happen.
     
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    Wanting2Help Well-Known Member

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    From the NamUs profile...

    I looked up "necessary objects limited" and found this:

    http://www.manta.com/c/mm2w9t8/necessary-objects-ltd

    So we can narrow the date of death from 1981 - 1991. NamUs doesn't list a probable year of death...



    Add: I just saw that The Doe Network lists estimated date of death 2-3 years prior to discovery...
     
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    Wanting2Help Well-Known Member

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    Cynthia Perry?

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/8281/0/

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/p/perry_cynthia.html


    Cynthia went missing from Raleigh, about 2 1/2 hours away from Hubert, NC. She had a history of drug abuse and was listed as an endangered runaway. If this is her she could have very easily been staying with "friends" etc. for quite some time before her death.

    Height: Jane Doe is listed as 62" estimated. Cynthia is listed as 66". Could they have been off that far in their estimate?

    Timeline: Jane Doe ~ If we go with the Doe Networks estimated date of death as 2-3 years, she would have been out on the streets/with friends for several years. Although, the NamUs profile does not list an estimated date of death but based off of when the clothing was manufactured it has to be sometime after 1981.
    Cynthia ~ Last seen 6/21/1985 but called home 2 weeks later and has not been heard from since.

    Age: Jane Doe is listed as 20-30 years old. Cynthia was 17 when last seen.
     

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    After reading the thread about about Annette Sagers, I was wondering if there is a possibility that this is her mother, Korrinna Sagers. Wrong state I know, but age and estimated time of death correspond. Not sure if she was officially reported missing.
     
  13. FigTree

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    Some similarities here - what do you think?

    The skeletal remains age would be out by 4 years (UID 30y.o - Crawford 34y.o) and the remains would be 5 years old not 3 years old.
    Clothing different - though don't know circumstances of after disappearance.
    Height is the same.

    Details:
    Elizabeth Crawford - Missing - Left home from: Simpsonville North Carolina
    (File gives location person is from as: Greenville County, South Carolina)
    Last seen: 1986
    Car found at manufacturing plant 6 miles away (doesnt give plant location)

    UID skeletal remains - Found at Bear Creek Road, Hubert, Onslow County, North Carolina

    The Map is a pretty straight route from Simpsonville to Bear Creek Rd (remains)

    Map:
    A - Bear Creek road Hubert Onslow NC (where UID skeletal remains found)
    B - Simpsonville, NC, United States (Elizabeth Crawford Missing from)
    C - Greenville, SC, United States (Elizabeth Crawford profile location)

    Am I missing anything?
     

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    FigTree Well-Known Member

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    I have submitted this to NamUs tonight.
     
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    Reply from NamUs came very quickly - this morning.
    Both Elizabeth Crawford and the UID had DNA testing on their profile page.
    If I hear back any further updates i will post them.
     
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    FigTree Well-Known Member

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    Amy Billig:
    I dont think she has been submitted.

    -----------------------------
    Update list of exclusions from NamUs Profile UP # 5966 below:

    [TABLE="discounted"]List of 10 names below discounted:
    First Name Last Name Year of Birth State LKA
    Rhonda Baucom 1958 North Carolina
    Frankie Hurst 1963 South Carolina
    Gail Katz-Bierenbaum 1956 New York
    Alice Klug 1962 Virginia
    Misty Mock 1966 Washington
    Patricia Schmidt 1964 Virginia
    Tiffany Sessions 1968 Florida
    Karen Spencer 1972 Ohio
    Constance Streif 1960 Texas
    Nancy Willis 1961 Tennessee
    [/TABLE]
     
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    The last update concerning this case was five years ago. And we still don't have any answers (even though there were evidently some new developments)... strange. LE must have found some sort of connection between the guy murdered and this Jane Doe, in order to suspect that it was the same killer. I just wish they would release a little more information..
     
  19. theshadow45

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    Bear Creek Jane Doe has been unidentified for 28 years today.
     

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