Found Deceased NC - William “Andy” Banks, 39, Raleigh, met someone about selling his car, 12 Sept 2020 *ARREST*

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  1. oviedo

    oviedo Well-Known Member

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    If the state allows the DP, the state should proceed with prosecution when warranted - IMO
     
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  2. oviedo

    oviedo Well-Known Member

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    I think some of these killers are desensitized to the actual act of the kill when using a gun. I can't really understand it myself - I used to think it was because they didn't want to leave a witness but in this situation? I just shake my head. It's awful any way I look at it.
    JMO
     
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  3. Tealgrove

    Tealgrove #Where Is Summer? #Gannon Is My Hero

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    He killed him because he could and he wanted to kill him.

    Some "people" are just not like you and me.

    Tim Bosma was killed for a truck the murderer could have bought. Millard wanted the truck, the thrill of the steal and the thrill of the kill.

    MOO
     
  4. Madeleine74

    Madeleine74 Knower of Things

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    I believe those who easily commit felonious acts including violence and escalating to murder do not value life. Maybe they don't value their own lives either, I don't know. But they certainly don't appear to value others who are not family members.

    I think back to the Eve Carson murder--a most heinous and senseless murder that didn't have to occur. It was nothing to the killers, not a hesitation or debate. And that awful murder of the mother who had just moved to the North Hills apartment a few years back, her 8 yr old daughter fortunately didn't wake up or get up or she too would have been murdered. IMO
     
  5. steff13

    steff13 Well-Known Member

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    I wonder if he intended to threaten Andy, steal the car, but didn't intend to kill him. I read a few pages back that people who know Andy said he would fight back; maybe JM didn't set out to kill Andy, but Andy fought back and JM killed him in the struggle. Not victim-blaming, mind you, just wondering if the murder itself was premeditated or just the robbery was.
     
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  6. Madeleine74

    Madeleine74 Knower of Things

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    Commission of a homicide during a felony is, at the least, felony murder, which can be treated as Murder in the first degree, per G.S. 14-17(a).

    In this case what we'll likely see (IMO) is multiple felonies: intent to commit the underlying felony (vehicle theft), use of a deadly weapon, kidnapping, homicide.

    Here are some of the details: The Basics of Felony Murder
     
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  7. GordianKnot

    GordianKnot Former Member

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    As to why this evil moron would kill him, the short answer is this:

    The total depravity of man. (*see John Calvin)

    If AB has been murdered, it's because the moron who killed him didn't want to leave a living witness who could identify him.

    The tragic fact is that this vile creep no doubt left a neon flashing trail of bread crumbs leading straight back to his doorstep anyhow, so killing AB was utterly, completely pointless.

    Evil exists.
    Evil men commit evil acts because they're evil.
    That is all.
    There is no deeper meaning.

    Such a tragic waste.

    JMO.
     
  8. Teche

    Teche Well-Known Member

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    Welcome back!
     
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    because "honest" people dont think like criminals. That's why most of us dont understand those who commit crimes. AB was a trusting soul and probably thought everyone else was too. He had probably done several transactions this way and nothing had gone wrong.
     
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  10. steff13

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    I'm aware of the defintion of felony murder. I didn't imply it wasn't a felony or that it shouldn't be first degree murder. I was just wondering if the intent was just to take the vehicle and things got out of hand.
     
  11. wyome

    wyome Well-Known Member

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    Some people feel entitled. They feel entitled to property that other's own and don't care at what means to take it. So senseless and sad.
     
  12. sloothseeker

    sloothseeker Well-Known Member

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    i think we know how this is going to end - just like most horrific crimes before. Life in person for murder committed. JM's background made him a criminal and society is to blame. not my words but how the court appointed defense attorney will spin it
     
  13. wyome

    wyome Well-Known Member

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    Yep. JM will be highlighted as a victim himself, punctuated by a train of relatives' accounts of circumstances that led him to this.
     
  14. MistyWaters

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    I think that’s bang on. Honest people would go along on the test drive genuinely believing their personal knowledge of the vehicle might be helpful to the potential purchaser. I doubt the reason is because they’re distrustful of the potential buyer or go along believing their presence will prevent the vehicle from being stolen — I cant imagine anyone making a choice to give their life over a stolen vehicle if the alternative was for the owner to willingly exit a vehicle upon orders by a violent thief.

    Similar to home invasions or robberies in general, criminals who murder to eliminate witnesses to take what doesn’t belong to them deserve a special place where they will rot in eternal agony IMO.
     
  15. wyome

    wyome Well-Known Member

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    In a way he did everything right. Meet someone in a public place in the daytime, away from your home.
     
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    Has LE done a press conference locally? Where are they looking for Andy — NC or VA? Have any local search parties been organized? Are his loved ones out looking, or have they bern told to stay home and not do that?
     
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    Steph8angels Eye in the Sky

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    NC man’s disappearance now being investigated as homicide, police say

    Detectives said the investigation and search for Banks continues.

    The Raleigh Police Department is investigating but Banks' family and friends aren’t leaving it solely up to the police to find him. They have mobilized in Raleigh and are mounting their own search.

    “This is a guy who is a son, a brother, and an uncle and just the nicest guy,” Cash told Channel 9. “I don’t think there’s peace of mind until we have some answers.”
     
  20. Truecolors

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    Andy is obviously deeply loved by many. He needs to be found and brought home.
     
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