Discussion in 'Up to the Minute' started by blankenship, May 24, 2019.
More sad stories on the economic cost to the sherpas
The Disposable Men: Sherpas on Everest
The tons of trash and poop is OK?
World's highest mountain is covered in 30 tons of trash
If you had the kind of money most Everest climbers do, no doubt it's not a problem stepping around the bodies of the dead because to be spending such a great amount on this hobby comes at the expense of a society filled with needy people depending on charities for help. Give to them? No. You are climbing to the top, and it doesn't matter to you who you step around to get there!
Ann Arbor (Michigan) physician summits Mount Everest
Everest Is Over
"Take Mount Everest: Since the explosion of Himalayan mountaineering in ... On Everest, there are no explicit rules about helping others, and forging ..."
"...24,200 pounds of garbage were pulled off the mountain during a 45-day cleanup expedition..."
Seattleite, first American to summit Everest, calls for stronger climbing regulations
Trash and dead bodies tallied after massive Mount Everest cleanup
This article talks about a climber who describes Mount Everest as a "War Zone". His friend died.
All of this is astounding.
"While Nepal does not have any experience requirements for climbers purchasing permits, the government is thinking about changing that, he notes." Quoted from the article above.
Maybe that might be a good idea, as unscrupulous companies are making climbing Everest sound like a camping trip with plenty of "Sherpas" to carry everything.
The rich want the mountaineering adventure, so Everest is littered with bodies and trash. Everest may be the highest mountain, but it's not a difficult climb. Compared to the others it's a high-altitude hike.
The highest peaks in the world (all in the Himalayas and the surrounding mtn ranges) and their degree of alpine difficulty:
1) Mt Everest - relatively easy climb with only the altitude causing problems. After portable oxygen was allowed, Everest could be submitted by inexperienced climbers.
2) K2 - very difficult climb, never successfully summited in winter, rarely have climbers reached the peak from the Chinese side. Called the Savage Mountain, it claims one death per successful climb. Only experienced alpine teams attempt it facing challenges including high-altitude, desolate location w/powerful winds exposing the rock face, avalanches, and sheer walls of stone that need advanced rope/rock climbing.
3) Kangchenjunga - never summited due to a tradition to always stop right before the summit.
4) Lhotse - has three peaks, the lowest peak is considered the most difficult climb, only achieved in 2001. The peak is sheer rock face on all sides, like a pyramid.
5) Makalulu - considered the most difficult climb in the Himalayas. Unlike K2 that has a less difficult though still advanced approach, Makululu is difficult on all sides. Sharing K2 desolate location,
Because of the mountain’s isolated position, which leaves it exposed to the elements, and numerous knife-edge ridges and pant-filling steep sections, Makalu is viewed by many in the mountaineering community as one of the world’s most difficult climbs. The latter stages of the ascent, in particular, involve some extremely technical rock and ice climbing.
Now if some tells you that they're climbing Everest, tell them it's a dangerous hike during the busy tourist season. Ask them about K2 or Makalulu. See if they recognize these unforgiving mountains.
At the risk of being seen as callous and uncaring, I just have to say that self-centered, egotistical people have absolutely no consideration of others who may have to risk their lives to save them from themselves. These people knew the risks and the hazards involved in their mission and despite all, decided to climb Mt. Everest come what may. I have to say that is the absolutely the most egotistical, self-centered thinking possible. JMO
I agree. Inexperienced climbers have no place on Everest. They put poor people in danger simply for their ego.
Share their dexamethasone injection. Share their oxygen and encourage others to share while helping the altitude sick person get down to a lower altitude.
Or, just push them to the side, pass them, and keep going to the summit. After all, getting to the Summit is the GOAL! Just step over the body on the way down.
This guy Rock Patel is something else. He says he didn’t do it for the glory. It wasn’t so he could post his picture on Facebook and get likes, for him it was spiritual.
Please see the enormous photo of him in the article at the summit. The photo he supplied. I think someone wants attention...
(Photo used with permission of Rock Patel.)
He and his group of 22 stayed on the top of the summit for 30 minutes?! While people were struggling and dying in the line behind him?
BS. He summited on the 23rd, which was the middle of the week in which people were allowed to climb.
Really? You mean someone really slow like you and your 22 person herd hogging up the top of the summit like it was a fraternity mixer for 30 minutes? Perhaps that could start bad things to happen?Of course you did nothing wrong, everyone else is at fault.
Sorry, what? You saw people dying and struggling, who were holding up the line? I thought you waited to climb after the long lines subsided?
As long as you got to the top of the fecal exploding trash heap that used to be a beautiful mountain, yay! Hey comrade, your body is clogging up the trail. Cheers!
Michigan climber reaches Mount Everest summit, but also sees death
It seems like it’s all about being “the first.” The first woman, the first fetus, the first Australian, the first American, the first juice harpist, the first person with red hair, the first person who was 5’5” tall, the list goes on.