Websleuths cited in Wired article:
MAKING A MURDERER GIVES THE INTERNET ITS HOTTEST CASE YET
ON NOV. 4, 2005, a member of the long-running crime-finding site Websleuths started a forum dedicated to a missing-persons case that was fascinating, despite its obscurity: A few days earlier, a young woman named Teresa Halbach had vanished after a work-related visit to Avery’s Auto Salvage, a sprawling junkyard in rural Manitowoc County, Wisconsin. Soon, the charred remains of Halbach, along with her abandoned car, were found on the property; eventually, one of the yard’s namesake workers, Steven Avery, would be arrested, tried, and convicted for Halbach’s murder, and sentenced to life in prison. “Too bad the death penalty wasn’t an option,” wrote one Websleuths user at the time, echoing the sentiment of many fellow online peers.
Nearly a decade later, though, a new Avery-obsessed thread appeared on the site—one that found many of its commenters notably more skeptical about his guilt. They discussed alternate theories, bemoaned what they saw as blatant abuses of power, and shared public-record court transcripts (some of which had been unearthed by a new and equally agitated Reddit forum) that they scoured for more info. Before long, there were about 1,200 comments on the thread—enough to necessitate a second thread, in which commenters grew even more incredulous about Avery’s case. “I am certain there was a conspiracy here,” one user noted. “Certain.”
Comment: I am rather surprised that a technology reporter does not appear to know what a "thread" as opposed to a "forum" is. They also incorrectly cited the WM3, stating it was a case of 3 murdered teenagers, when, in fact, it was a case of a murdered little boy, and 3 teenagers, allegedly involved in Satanism, were charged, tried, and convicted. Outside of these rather glaring errors, the article is interesting.
If true, you are right.
I will go through that testimony again in dassey trial transcripts, but in the opening statement, this is the wording :
"the bill of sale, thecompletion of the transaction "
So maybe it was Kratz implying that the bill of sale was filled out at the other locations ?
I'll see if I can verify that by looking at the actual client statements.
No doubt, if what you are saying is true, that clears up one major red flag in regards to the appointment in my mind.
My understanding of a bill of sale is that it might be a carbon copy that says -- you paid $40 for these pictures. But maybe you are right, that they leave them a blank one for when/if the vehicle gets sold.
I'll see if I can clarify this. Thanks for noting this.
Fabian was never mentioned in the post-conviction motion so I won't answer on him as the defense wasn't attempting to bring him in. Of the four that they were, I think they all could meet motive. As for opportunity, they would have to have been on the property when Teresa was. This would include CA and BD, and possibly EA. You are correct that the third prong would be difficult to meet without an investigation
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I've been here for years and I have no idea what is appropriate and allowed in cutting quotes so they are not super long... lol Usually I don't reply with quote.
I thought what I have in bold above was burned also wth. I wonder whose dna showed up on them.......
Do you have specifics on the size of the room? How many exact searches there were? Where in the testimony did you get your information? Just curious...
Yeah, in this case it's the "we didn't even bother to investigate these other guys, but that's fair, right?" rule in action. Judge came across to me as biased.
That is one reason I want to see the avery transcripts so badly. I want to understand some of the rulings the judge made, and the reasons he gave for making them. Specifically in regards to the alternative suspects.
In the avery trial there is constant mention of DENNY -- I am assuming that this is some kind of court protocol for who can be presented as an alternative suspect or something of that nature. Anyone ?
Imo, with regard to Brendan, it appears one of his classmates reported that he told her he saw human bones in a bonfire at Avery's place. She later recanted, on the stand, and in tears, claiming she was just trying to get him into trouble, and had made it up. It's very bizarre, imho. But I do think that is why they started focusing upon him.
Add to that that Jody had a BAC of just 0.02 !
So not even legally drunk! ( MAM eps, 2 16:56). It wouldn't surprise me a bit if Sandy didn't buy her a beer at one of dem dere many taverns, ( which Sandra Morris walks to of course.:angel: )
I believe I have read here that the transcripts for Brendan's trial are available. Please correct me if I am wrong but if so, who released them and why and when?
Ok, I've reread the Convoluted Brian Alternative Suspect article a few more times, and I'll likely do another pass at the reddits on this topic to see if anything has resulted from people searching for this guy.
He deserves at the very least a name that is as interesting as Mr. BoJangles, but not sure what that would be. Some called him The German, I think. But that's a bit plain.
The article is either completely true and this guy obviously murdered halbach
The article is creative writing where someone pulled details from the crime such as the cans of Cherry Pepsi Cola and the arsonist aspect to explain the burning of the body.
To me, it stinks of #2 - no pun intended - but, I am going to go down the rabbit hole that is reddit one more time to at least see if it progressed beyond people claiming they have made contact with the guy, but no one is willing to name him for fear of his arsonist skills.
Question #1 for Brian is... How did you learn of this guy and his wife ?