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NY New York, New York Blk Female 30-45 UP8004, found unresponsive in Morningside Park sep1993

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  1. Moonwalker9

    Moonwalker9 Well-Known Member

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    The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
    Warning PM

    Case Numbers
    NCMEC Number--
    ME/C Case NumberM93-07343
    Demographics
    SexFemale
    Race / EthnicityBlack / African American
    Possible First Name--
    Possible Middle Name--
    Possible Last Name--
    Possible Nickname--
    Estimated Age GroupAdult - Pre 50
    Estimated Age Range (Years)30-45
    Estimated Year of Death1993
    Estimated PMIHours
    Height5' 5"(65 inches) , Measured
    Weight125 lbs, Measured
    Circumstances
    TypeUnidentified Deceased
    Date FoundSeptember 15, 1993
    NamUs Case CreatedOctober 12, 2010
    ME/C QA ReviewedOctober 13, 2010
    Location Found Map
    Street AddressMorningside Park at West 113th StreetNew York, New York
    CountyNew York County
    GPS Coordinates40.803382, -73.959188
    Circumstances of RecoveryUnknown black female found unresponsive in Morningside Park near West 113th Street.
    Details of Recovery


    Inventory of RemainsAll parts recovered
    Condition of RemainsRecognizable face
    Physical Description
    Hair ColorBlack
    Head Hair Descriptioncurly, 1"
    Body Hair Description--
    Facial Hair Description--
    Left Eye ColorBrown
    Right Eye ColorBrown
    Eye Description--
    Distinctive Physical Features
    Item
    Description
    Scar/mark
    numerous linear track marks on forearms, hands and legs


    Clothing and Accessories
    Item
    Description
    Clothing
    blue jeans, white shirt, blue bra, brown leather belt
    On the Body
     
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    All are good possibilities! Janice Hughes & Maynard look very similar to the UID...

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    MP34554
    VIOLA A BUTLER
    Black / African American
    Last Contact: February 19, 1989
    Missing From: Pleasantville, NJ
    Age: 39
    Height: 5' 6" - 5' 7"
    Weight: 130 - 135 lbs

    **She resembles the UID in the pic above but not so much in the other pic in her profile


    Has anyone else noticed VA has run all of the UIDs through NAMUS...Almost every R/O list I checked there's a VA UID..They are trying to resolve their cases...
     
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    sad that it's possible that this UID was never reported missing, considering the drug abuse ("numerous linear track marks on forearms, hands and legs") and possible homelessness :( shes got to have family somewhere that still wonders about her...
     
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    Sadly, I feel like the majority of JD's are not reported missing and therefore not in namus. Many of these people come from the bottom of society, drug users, prostitutes, illegal aliens, Undomiciled , transient etc.

    Sometimes they are reported missing but not in namus anyway, perhaps their file is only in some local agency or in some agents drawer. NEW YORK made enonormous effort on creating namus files for plenty of cases from 1989-1993, the time whern the city was very rough.

    If there is DNA available namus can easily match the missing with the unidentified, however in some cases there ain't. California cremate their does and before DNA was used in forensic investigations they failed to extract it.

    I strongly feel like

    Shirley Magee

    The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

    Is a match with

    The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

    But without DNA available it's hard to be sure.

    Therefore I wish somebody comes forward that can match the photo with the PM so she finally can come home.

    That's the main reason Im posting all these threads here hoping that someone will recognize the persons.
     
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    wow, Shirley Magee IS very facially similar to that UID! Sad to see that the UID has no rule-outs, at least on NamUs. Assuming the UID was killed recently (recognizable face, measured weight, eye color known) are you insinuating that SM was alive for 2yrs after her disappearance? Would be kind of weird that she gained 20lbs but didn't gain any height from 12-14 y/o, but namus stats could always be inaccurate :confused: hope SM's family finds closure soon
     
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    Illinois Cold Cases Facebook page did a post on Shirley Magee on 5/26/2019

    Illinois Cold Cases
     

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