GUILTY NEW ZEALAND - Grace Millane, 22, British backpacker, Auckland, 1 Dec 2018 *Arrest* #3

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  1. Sararara

    Sararara New Member

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    I think they might see it as, there is reasonable doubt around his original intentions in starting to choke her. But there is no doubt that continuing to strangle her past the point of unconsciousness and all the way to death constitutes, at the very least, reckless disregard. That was my thinking too. Its irrevocable at that point.

    I wonder if he enjoyed the feeling of power so much he couldn't stop himself. Which makes him guilty for sure.
     
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  2. kiwilaura

    kiwilaura Well-Known Member

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    Jury is coming in now!
     
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  3. Kikixxxx

    Kikixxxx Well-Known Member

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    They’ve reached a verdict oh GOD
     
  4. MsBetsy

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    I don't know, I wish we had more details. I wonder if he gave specific details to investigators as to how many times he did it.
    He claims she told him to go harder so that would indicate that he released his grip and then tightened it again but I don't know what his story was or if it was made clear in court.

    Imo
     
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  5. Kikixxxx

    Kikixxxx Well-Known Member

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    Guiltyyyyyy
     
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  6. legal.beagle

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    As others have mentioned, I assume the jury are thinking what may have started as consented strangulation may have turned into something more sinister partway through; which is a good point, really.
     
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  7. kiwilaura

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    MURDER! Thank you jury.
     
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  8. PrimeSuspect

    PrimeSuspect Under the Milky Way

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    It's only 5.44 pm there, maybe by 6 pm a verdict?
     
  9. legal.beagle

    legal.beagle Well-Known Member

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  10. kiwilaura

    kiwilaura Well-Known Member

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    Actually crying with relief.

    RIP Grace Millane.
     
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  11. MsBetsy

    MsBetsy Well-Known Member

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    Here we go...

    Is everyone in the UK sleeping right now? There are not a lot of people here right now, it seems.
     
  12. Mariposa

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    I think the defendant was Vaguely McVague about this to the police, he obviously left out a lot o’details
     
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  13. kem922

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    I am so relieved by their decision. I am so so glad their verdict wasn't tainted by the way the defence tried to tarnish Grace.
     
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  14. PrimeSuspect

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    Fantastic!Justice has been served!!
     
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  15. MsBetsy

    MsBetsy Well-Known Member

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    We’re supposed to be. It’s almost 5am here.

    NOW release his name please !!!!!
     
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    Wish I could hug her family. I hope this brings them some comfort to know the jury came to this decision.
     
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  18. Mariposa

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    Yeah! Got chills. Thinking of her family and much respect to the police and prosecutors
     
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  19. MsBetsy

    MsBetsy Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I figured. At least many will wake up soon to good news.

    I really want to see a picture of this guy.
     
  20. kem922

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    The police and prosecutors have been pretty amazing.
     

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