GUILTY NJ - Autumn Pasquale, 12, Clayton, 20 Oct 2012 - #2

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  1. Hickory Born

    Hickory Born New Member

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    I think blunt force trauma would be no cut with a knife, etc. or no gun hole in a body. The blunt force would be to the windpipe. No intrusion in to the body.
     


  2. katydid23

    katydid23 Well-Known Member

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    They said she was not sexually abused. So was she really KILLED over a stolen bike?

    Why didnt they just steal it when she wasnt looking?
     
  3. bdawk20

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    I just got home and saw on the local news about the arrests. What is this world coming to? It's not bad enough that adults commit these crimes, but kids....ugh. I knew this was gonna be teenaged boys somehow. I'm glad that at least the boy's mother called police.
     
  4. mikeysmommom

    mikeysmommom "A grandchild fills a space in your heart that you

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    cluciano63 Well-Known Member

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    Did they say she wasn't sexually assaulted for sure?I thought they were a little vague on that issue so far, not sure.
     
  6. bdawk20

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    Also, they are only thinking of charging them as adults? Come on....to me, it's a no-brainer. They lured her to their home for bike parts. Bike parts?! I am just nauseous.
     
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    Well, since the house dosnt look too big, and we know the basment was full of bike parts ? Than in which room of the house did they kill her in ? Where was mom ? Not noticing her sons were killing a 12 year old girl on a saturday afternoon ???? No blood left behind ? And noooo one noticed them carrying a body to the garbage ? Hmmmmm.
     
  8. donnam

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    I understood what you meant.
     
  9. Seajay

    Seajay Never pass up an opportunity to pee.

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    When asked about sexual assault, the Pros of Gloucester County said, that the preliminary report was no sexual assault but that it won't be confirmed until the autopsy report comes out. FWIW.
     
  10. RoseWhite

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    She probably fought them. With multiple "tough guys" in the room, I could see how it could escalate. I'd be willing to guess they didn't plan on "let's kill her for parts." I mean really. WHY now?

    Plus, I honestly don't think understand how easily someone could get killed in a struggle.
     
  11. Linda7NJ

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    Local new channel 10 outed the "boys" by name and showed a picture they lifted from the 15 year old monster's Facebook Page

    I say GOOD!
     
  12. letsgostate05

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    Except she was strangled...you don't accidentally strangle someone
     
  13. Gemmas

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    Hearing word of another missing NJ girl Annastasia Grazino? Not sure of any more details or whether this is an old or new case?
     
  14. Linda7NJ

    Linda7NJ Well-Known Member

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    Blunt force trauma and Strangulation. It takes a long time to strangle someone, and IMO its never an accident
     
  15. LittleMissContrary

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    Sexual assault has not been completely ruled out. There are more tests to be done.

    I am disturbed by the fact that I knew this was done by young men and by the fact that I correctly surmised that she died from blunt force trauma/strangulation.

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8490973&postcount=822

    Maybe its time for me to take a break from these cases.
     
  16. vasportsmom

    vasportsmom so many cases...so much heartbreak

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    As I sit here listening to my boys argue over what we should have for dinner in between running dungeons together on WoW, I broke down for the first time. Autumn and her siblings won't get that chance ever again. They won't fight over silly stuff and then turn right around and stand together the moment someone dares say something about either of them. They won't stand up in each others weddings or commiserate over how annoying their in laws are. Her siblings will never know normal again. Everything from this point on will be 'before Autumn' and 'after Autumn', that has to be a nearly unbearable burden for a child. My heart is breaking for those children in way I didn't think possible. I just can't imagine.


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  17. katydid23

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    I thought the sheriff said ' blunt force trauma' on the presser. But maybe I got it wrong.'

    ETA: I just saw above it was a combo of the two. :mad:
     
  18. RoseWhite

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    I honestly think that could happen too. People don't snap out of their adrenaline to logically reason over what they are doing.

    I'm not defending the monsters in the least. I think what they did was senseless, stupid, greedy and evil.
     
  19. Seajay

    Seajay Never pass up an opportunity to pee.

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    Maybe the mother was at work. Maybe there wasn't any blood or the boys cleaned it up before she got home. And if she wasn't home, with an abandoned house next door, there may not have been any witnesses.

    I feel so sad for Autumn's family. They lost a beautiful soul in their family and it will be forever changed. This is something they will never get over. My heart hurts so badly for them.

    It took courage for the mother of the boys to blow the whistle on them, knowing they killed another human being. Her decision to turn them in had to be agonizing. I can't even imagine having to make that kind of decision.

    No one won in this deal. No one came out ahead. This is a tragedy all the way around.

    May precious angel Autumn rest in peace and may those two murders be reminded every day of their lives what they did and torment over it.
     
  20. nervous_nellie

    nervous_nellie Carpe Noctem

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    i agree, but the way the prosecutor explained it, it was like blunt force trauma strangulation....like it was all one thing and not two different injuries??? i think he was just trying to be vague and it all came out at once or something.. i think blunt force trauma and strangulation are prolly 2 separate things... or could it mean that some blunt instrument was used to strangle her...like a baseball bat ?? do we have any medical peeps around???
     
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