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NJ NJ - Blairstown, 'Princess Doe' WhtFem 36UFNJ, 14-18, Jul'82

Discussion in 'The Unidentified' started by Richard, Oct 14, 2004.

  1. CCJD

    CCJD Well-Known Member

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    Tssiemer Well-Known Member

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    chaddylex Verified Insider

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    Here you go Vedder
    PA - PA - Kathleen Kelly, 12, Springdale, 22 May 1981

    I couldn't remember where I heard that Kathleen Kelly wasn't Princess Doe - but now I see from Kathleen's thread that it was Amy Dobbs from NamUs.
     
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    JrzyGirl70 Well-Known Member

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    In case anyone is interested:

    On Sunday June 24, 2018, the Blairstown Museum will present "The Unsolved Case of Princess Doe" with Guest Speakers Lt. Stephen Speirs ( Ret. ) Warren County Prosecutor's Office and Lt. Eric Kranz ( Ret. ) Blairstown Police Department . Plus hear from Christie Leigh Napurano, Author of The Untold Story of Princess Doe.

    More info about the event here:
    The Unsolved Case of Princess Doe
     
  5. rob525

    rob525 Well-Known Member

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    Yesterday was 36 years since she was found. I rode by this cemetery again a week or so ago. Hard not to start thinking about this case.
     
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  6. Richard

    Richard Well-Known Member

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    Lots of info at link below:

    LINK:

    36UFNJ
     
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    I've been wanting to go visit her grave too :( I remember reading about this case back when I was a little kid :( it still freaks me out that so much time has passed and they still don't know who she is :(
     
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  9. TmmEye

    TmmEye Well-Known Member

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    I decided to do a better reconstruction of her. Not the best, but my depiction. Using her skull, I created her face. Lots of recons show “good front teeth” but they were really crooked. I wish I could maybe do this as a job.
     

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  10. Mysteries1974

    Mysteries1974 Martha Jean Lambert - Missing since 1985

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    1290DFMD - Karen Beth Kamsch
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    The image on the right has been age progressed to 52 years.

    Name: Karen Beth Kamsch
    Case Classification: Endangered Missing
    Missing Since: June 01, 1976
    Location Last Seen: Pasadena, Anne Arundel County, Maryland

    Physical Description
    Date of Birth: January 19, 1962
    Age: 14 years old
    Race: White
    Gender: Female
    Height: 5'0"
    Weight: 110 lbs.
    Hair Color: Brown
    Eye Color: Brown
    Nickname/Alias: Unknown
    Distinguishing Marks/Features: Unknown

    Identifiers
    Dentals: Not Available
    Fingerprints: Not Available
    DNA: Available

    Clothing & Personal Items
    Clothing: Unknown
    Jewelry: Unknown
    Additional Personal Items: Unknown

    Circumstances of Disappearance
    In 1976, Karen's grandmother, Olga Kamsch, looked for the teenager at home when she failed to show up for school. She found Karen's belongings, including her winter coat, but not Karen. Karen had moved in with her grandmother on Wishing Rock Road in Pasadena before she vanished because she was having problems with her family.

    Family members told police that as a child, Karen was a straight A student who was so smart she skipped sixth grade. It was after the advancement of grade levels that Karen started hanging with the wrong crowd and getting into trouble. She ran away a couple of times and got into normal teenage trouble.

    Police were told Karen's father and her grandmother, who has since died, reported the disappearance to police, but detectives don't have records of that report. Checks of computer systems have been unable to verify Karen Kamsch's existence since 1976.

    On May 15, 2007, police formally filed a missing-person report. According to school officials Karen attended Brooklyn Park Senior High School through at least June 1976. After talking to family members, police have reason to think Karen may have been abused. Detectives believe her disappearance is suspicious in nature and she may have been murdered.

    Investigating Agency(s)
    Agency Name: Anne Arundel County Police Department
    Agency Contact Person: Detective Jason DiPietro
    Agency Phone Number: 410-222-8050
    Agency E-Mail: P91249@aacounty.org
    Agency Case Number: 07719714



    NCIC Case Number: Unknown
    NamUs Case Number: 2387
    NCMEC Case Number: 1078814

    Information Source(s)
    NamUs
    NCMEC
    The Baltimore Sun

    Admin Notes
    Added: 9/13/07; Last Updated: 11/7/17

    Questions or comments? Please contact appropriate member of the Area Team

    ** Listed information is from the time of disappearance

    One theory was submitted that Princess Doe may have been a runaway and could have been an individual using false names while employed at a hotel in Ocean City, Maryland. Six people have recently come forward with suspected identities of Princess Doe.
     
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    I'm thinking Karen is a rule out based on DNA.
     
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    JrzyGirl70 Well-Known Member

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    Karen is on the list of possible matches on the Princess Doe website, but looks like they haven't updated it in years
     
  13. Mysteries1974

    Mysteries1974 Martha Jean Lambert - Missing since 1985

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    They do look similar
     
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    Mysteries1974 Martha Jean Lambert - Missing since 1985

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    Idk if Karen was ever compared. I’ll ask my friend from Doe network to look into it.
     
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    Karen doesn’t have a DNA sample if I can remember correctly, and her parents are deceased.
     
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    Mrs. Badcrumble The North remembers

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    Mysteries1974 Martha Jean Lambert - Missing since 1985

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    Karen only has DNA on file. Her dentals were lost.
     
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  18. Redleg

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    I was just linked this case after joining recently, I'm going to be compiling my own thoughts and notes in this comment for the time being. Please feel free to comment.

    A search of missing persons from 1982 in Florida revealed a female subject, listed as Jane Doe, whose body was found in Pompano Beach, Fl. Subject in question bares at least a passing resemblance to 'Princess'.

    Ref:
    NCMEC: 1184233 - NCIC: U860019760 - NamUS: 1276
    Link: Have you seen this child? JANE DOE1982
    Notes:

    1. Similarities in Supraorbital ridge and general forehead shape, nasal bridge-line, mouth/lip shape, eye shape. Age group approximately the same; both unknown teens to early 20s. Subjects discovered within 1 month of eachother. Status of both: deceased.

    2. Updated 'Princess' information link? Ref:
    NCMEC: 1102461 - NCIC: U630870962 - NamUS: 1513
    Link: Have you seen this child? JANE DOE1982

    3. Age similarity, connection to Florida through admission of runaway status from father, at the time employed as a dentist in Florida.

    Edit #1 04272019 1601hrs: Search of web discovered report of second missing person described above. Included in information was post-mortem report incidcating subject was discovered with a gold chain with purple beads on it.
    Ref Link: https://*****************/forum/ind...nd-in-deerfield-beach-pond-20-june-1982.5986/

    To do: Search of dentists working in Pompano Beach during year of 1982.
     
  19. Paul B.

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    Princess Doe haunts me. The fact that they found from areas around her eyes that she was wearing makeup led to a theory about sex work, but i find that theory disrespectful.
     
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    Are they doing this again this year? I think it is very forward thinking of them but it needs more advertisement.
     

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