NJ NJ - Blairstown, 'Princess Doe' WhtFem 36UFNJ, 14-18, Jul'82

Discussion in 'The Unidentified' started by Richard, Oct 14, 2004.

  1. WyomingSkyAngel

    WyomingSkyAngel Rocky Mountain Fresh

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    It's not disrespectful if it's a realistic possibility. If she was indeed a runaway "survival s*x" behaviors would not be too out of place.

    I honestly wonder if a billboard with her info would bring forward some tips. Realistically familial DNA could solve this case.
     
  2. Mysteries1974

    Mysteries1974 Martha Jean Lambert - Missing since 1985

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    I still am on the hunch that this is Karen Kamsch
     
  3. chaddylex

    chaddylex Verified Insider

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    I think she is Kathleen Kelly, and I don't know why.
     
  4. JrzyGirl70

    JrzyGirl70 Well-Known Member

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    I have not heard of anything, but if I do I will post here
     
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  5. MacPlus512

    MacPlus512 Pittsburgh Proud

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    Have any postmortems of Princess Doe ever been released or exhibited other than the one of her teeth?
    I thought Kathleen Kelly was ruled out via DNA four years ago? (Also, how recent were the Kathleen pictures in the thread? She would have had to have grown her hair considerably from them).
    Karen Kamsch may be our best hope. The Maryland connection lines up. Do we know anything of her earlier years?
     
  6. JrzyGirl70

    JrzyGirl70 Well-Known Member

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  7. Paul B.

    Paul B. Well-Known Member

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    @JrzyGirl70 Oh, For the Love of God! I hope the Princess haunts these "memorialists" in their dreams for this show of disrespect!

    Any news on the Princess being moved to Arlington National Cemetery? It was being planned as a way of symbolically honouring all missing and murdered children.
     
  8. JrzyGirl70

    JrzyGirl70 Well-Known Member

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    @Paul B. before this upcoming memorial I would have said there is no way they would have moved her, but now maybe she is better off. If you read through the article you would see the petition, please consider signing it.
     
  9. Mysteries1974

    Mysteries1974 Martha Jean Lambert - Missing since 1985

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    Karen has an abusive home life and has to go live with her grandma. It’s possible she ran away to New Jersey and met with foul play afterwards
     
  10. Paul B.

    Paul B. Well-Known Member

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    @JrzyGirl70 @Mysteries1974 the whole "she must have been somebody's [little] Princess" reason in naming her is interesting. It relies on a certain image of youthful femininity.
     
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    I’m a Jersey girl and it does not sit right with me either. :( I signed the petition.

    Why don’t they make it a day and visit Land of Make Believe, tell the stories of Jenny Jump and drive down Shades of Death Road? Reading it made me think of local tourist attractions.
     
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  12. Paul B.

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    @ClaireNC I support the retired detective's desire to move the Princess to Arlington National as the center of a monument honoring ALL missing people and murdered children.
     
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  13. Roselvr

    Roselvr Ask me how to get your loved one in NamUs

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  14. TmmEye

    TmmEye WhyDoYouAsk?

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    Paying for a memorial?! What the heck is going through someone’s thick head!
     
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  15. JrzyGirl70

    JrzyGirl70 Well-Known Member

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    Thank you!!
     
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    Tssiemer Well-Known Member

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    Why don’t we want this? Because they are making money?
     
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  17. JrzyGirl70

    JrzyGirl70 Well-Known Member

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    I personally don't feel a "trolley tour" to her gravesite along with a visit to a local winery along the way in "celebration" of her life is very appropriate. Princess Doe who probably by guesstimates wasn't even old enough to enjoy a glass of wine during her very short life was brutally beaten beyond recognition and tossed into the cemetery for strangers to find. While I totally support memorials for her, I just think this is beyond disrespectful. And yes they certainly should not profit off of this young girls death, even if it is for the town museum. They can profit off of the fame of being in the Friday the 13th movies all they want, but this is just not right..
     
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  18. Fuuro

    Fuuro spicy user

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    If you're talking about pictures taken immediately upon recovery, no. The body had been badly decomposed due to the fact that she had been dead for several days at the very least in the middle of July before she was recovered. On top of that, she sustained major facial trauma in the process of being killed. There probably wouldn't be much of her to see.

    If you mean pictures of her skull, then I think that only a picture of the lower half of the skull has been released. If you look at the picture closely, you can see that it looks as if her jaw had been damaged during her murder.
     
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  19. Roselvr

    Roselvr Ask me how to get your loved one in NamUs

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    Yes, and as was mentioned, serving alcohol is inappropriate, especially since she was a minor.
     
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  20. rob525

    rob525 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe this is a good place / time to ask this question. Given the discussion concerning the events marking the anniversary.
    First, one of my personal interests is geocaching. For those unfamiliar, Geocaching usually ( definitely not always) takes place in a park or forest and involves folks hiding "caches" with simple trinkets inside and a sign in log. It is a fun way to explore the park and often used to draw visitors attention to particularly scenic, histroic or generally important places. Often folks whom hide these caches do so in a series, with a particular theme involved.
    I had been thinking for a awhile about a missing / unsolved theme of caches. The thought was to construct the caches in a way that folks would visit the location, in this case possibly the cemetary where princess doe was found, read the information about her and thus inform people who may not have been aware. Also, I guess the ultimate goal would be to stir some memory in someone and produce a lead in the case.
    But, I would not want to do anything to disrespect her memory in any way, which is why I have not proceeded with the idea and why I am asking this question. Thoughts?

    Also thought about the following caches in my area as part of the series:
    Siegfried Woelski-NJ
    Tiger Lady- NJ
    Sussex County Jane Doe-NJ
     

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