AMBER ALERT NJ - Dulce Mariá Alavez, 5, abducted at Bridgeton City Park, Cumberland County, 16 Sept 2019 #3

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  1. SuperTmo

    SuperTmo Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, agreed. If I described my daughter’s appearance, or said to look for a girl who looks Swedish or Scandinavian, there are millions who fit the bill.

    I don’t think she was the kid in the red car, and I question if there even was one. I’m bothered by the initial lack of info from the witnesses that they came up with the next day. The car in the video isn’t what witnesses said they saw. It could have been anyone driving by. Maybe someone new to the area was just briefly checking it out. Who knows.

    I wonder if Dulce could swim, and what water is around.
     
  2. momrids6

    momrids6 JUSTICE FOR JENNIFER

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    I'm only going by what is written.

    In the images, the vehicle is seen when it enters the five-acre park at about 4:20 p.m. and leaves around 4:24 p.m., a period that coincides with the moment when the Mexican-born girl would have disappeared.
     
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    therion20 Well-Known Member

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    Respectfully the article doesn't say Mexican-born, it just doesn't .If you are translating whatever you are using is giving you a wrong translation. JMO
     
  4. squareandrabbet

    squareandrabbet Well-Known Member

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    Technically, Telemundo IS NBC, for the record:

    Telemundo
     
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    AgeofAquaruis Well-Known Member

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    Hmmmmmm 4:20. Wow it just hit me. I wonder if that has any significance.
     
  6. white rabbit

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    is there a link for this? or is this a translation? sorry just catching up so this may be a stupid question but if LE has video of the car/truck/suv/van on video for this specific time period don't they have a color/make/model of it?
     
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    I'm having a hard time not talking about all that lol So, Im moving on: Nice to see exterior footage from the icecream trip
    @Ashley74 i grabbed screenshots from the link you shared. Ive been so curious about the exterior of the store.
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    I assumed there were no cameras on the exterior but, here is video shared by Aaron Baskerville
    Editing to add if link fails to produce video from which I grabbed the screenshots above please let me know by message. It does as of 11:49 a.m. EST
     
  8. MsBetsy

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    <modsnip: quoted post was removed>

    I said that if it's in a language people don't understand then how can they know whether it's credible or not? If you can't make that determination then how do you know if it's factual or not?

    It's really not a problem because the article was quickly translated.

    Anyway the fact that it's in another language has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not the information is accurate.

    How can we know for a fact that authorities released the video of the car used in the abduction? For all we know they used the other story as their source, and got the video from them, which is hardly uncommon.

    My only point was that this has not been verified by LE as far as I can tell.

    So far no-one has said that it was.

    I just think it's important to know the facts and especially the details related by LE, not just opinions or assumptions made by reporters. It could be that it is the right vehicle and LE has a good reason not to show it. There must be a reason why it was pulled.

    I'm not sure why anyone would disagree with that.

    Usually posters question others about the facts and want to know where they come from. I have many times assumed something was verified when it wasn't. I'm trying not to make that mistake again.

    Imo
     
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  9. zecats

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    And NBC is the station that first put the video out there in English.
     
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    Questions:

    Does Dulce’s mom work? If so I assume everyone she works with has been checked out by now. ( nobody sleuth her, I’m just wondering if it’s been mentioned in the media over the last week).

    Do we know if Dulce can swim, if she likes swimming, and if there is much water nearby?

    Finally, one thing I read here last night said that the dog followed her scent around the park for around an hour before losing it. Do we know anything else about that? What route the scent took and where it ended? Did it end where the kidnappers vehicle was?
     
  12. AgeofAquaruis

    AgeofAquaruis Well-Known Member

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    It refers to ancestry.
     
  13. TTF14

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    I thought I read she does not work or go to school.
     
  14. AgeofAquaruis

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    I wonder if the dog picked up the scent from Mom,when she went around the park looking for Dulce.
     
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    Thank you for that! I wish the clip was a little longer but at least we can see the outside of the store. Wondering if this store is a stand alone store? Or are there adjacent stores
     
  16. MsBetsy

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    We still don't know if the vehicle in the video was the one used in the crime, but yes, I would think they would be able to figure out the make and model, as well as many other important details such as scratches or dents that may be on the car.

    Someone said earlier that there were two people seen in the video, although I'm not sure if that's true or if they were both in the front or what the details were. But I'm sure with FBI technology they would be able to see a lot, if they really do have images of the car.

    IMO
     
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  17. AgeofAquaruis

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    I think that's why she stayed in the car with her niece to help with homework,while letting the younguns play,and spend their energy. She knows what it feels like to not have her education,and does not want anyone else to feel that way. So she does the best she can to ensure her niece gets a leg up she doesn't have.
    MOO.
     
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  18. momrids6

    momrids6 JUSTICE FOR JENNIFER

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    Ok. Dad is Mexican. Government involved? As someone said earlier, she is on fbi most wanted. So many missing are not. Why?
     
  19. MsBetsy

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    Yes, it refers to lineage, so it would usually imply that one's parent's or grandparents were born in that country. Imo
     
  20. momrids6

    momrids6 JUSTICE FOR JENNIFER

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    Sunoco Gas Station

    176 N Pearl St, Bridgeton, NJ 08302
    (856) 455-8461 Sunoco Gas Station - Google Search
     
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