AMBER ALERT NJ - Dulce Mariá Alavez, 5, abducted at Bridgeton City Park, Cumberland County, 16 Sept 2019 #6

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  1. imstilla.grandma

    imstilla.grandma ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ Believer of Miracles

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    You are not the only one. bbm I played shortfielder in softball in high school. Some people call it the rover position. If your in left field, I got you covered on your right and left sides. Insightful post much appreciated and heard.
     


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    sleuther0192837465 Stand up for what is right even if you stand alone

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    @Gardener1850 @CSIDreamer @Ginger21 I agree with all of you!! I was numb anytime I had to talk about my mom’s death. I couldn’t cry (I detached myself from the moment) & spoke in as a matter of fact tone. (This went on for years until I was removed & awakened to the situation I had grown up in.) Like it wasn’t me that saw what I saw...if that makes sense? So I absolutely understand Noema!
    MOO!
     
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    Is there anyone who can type the highlights of Dr Phil today?
     
  4. Gardener1850

    Gardener1850 Timeline Guru (Still Remembering Cupcake)

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    I agree that maybe it is not abuse per se, but perhaps a reaction to multiple life traumas is a better way to put it? At the very least I think we can say that getting pregnant three times as a teenager by 3 different males would be a traumatic life experience. I lean towards it being an indicator of abuse because I think it's highly unlikely the males were all her same age every time. A 13 year old girl doesn't get pregnant on her own and I doubt she was wanting that to happen. I refuse to crucify a girl who has been through what she has been through.

    MOO.
     
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    How many mothers have acted hysterical, tears flowing like a river and yet they murdered their own child? They knew where their child was and what happened. I stated that because people say Noema must be guilty of something because she shows no emotion, she is not crying and breaking down, lets say she did know where Dulce was or what happened and she was crying everyday all day would that make her more believable just because she is crying? Dr Phil asked her what would make her go to a stranger if you have told her not to? Experiment after experiment have shown videos on TV of kids trusting strangers and willingly walking off with them,just because they are good kids and taught about strangers does not mean they wont go with one and how would Noema have a clue of what the perp did to lure her? I personally think Noema should only interview with a Spanish news station with a professional translator,i think she is more comfortable speaking Spanish and the interview where she did Spanish then spoke English with another reporter she looked way more relaxed and free flowing in Spanish.I see the pain in grandma eyes,i have seen her cry and sob i know she misses Dulce but for comparison setting on the couch in video linked above she wasn't crying and she was looking at the floor the whole time just like Noema i think they are shy and scared.I just pray for the whole family and hope they find Dulce soon. I believe since Dulce family is not legal they are upset with her in their own way since this happened because it has brought investigators and LE into their lives she must be feeling awful about that to add to the misery of her daughter missing. everything stated is moo..
     
  6. cass523

    cass523 Well-Known Member

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    Dr. Phil asked Noema "If there is anyone you may suspect that may have taken Dulce?" She told him a former boyfriend has been trying to go out with her, be with her. She also said ran into him while she was out with Dulce.

    The family spokesperson, JR, believes Noema knows more than what she is saying and is not emotional because she knows Dulce is fine. This was already said in previous posts today.

    I also do not believe it was her place to reveal personal information about the grandparents, to a reporter, that the grandparents did not have their U.S. citizenship. This has nothing to do with Dulce missing.
     
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    I'm just jumping in here but the remains they found in Smyrna , they say its not Dulce because she was found 3 days earlier ! Can anyone verify they saw her the last 3 days , I'm at work so I haven't caught up on this thread but the recon is SOOOO close
     
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    It's impossible for it to be Dulce. Dulce went to school on the day she went missing. Then she was seen on CCTV at the store getting ice cream with her mom and brother before they went to the park.

    ETA: Here is the Unidentified child's thread: DE - DE - Smyrna, Female, 2-5 years old Caucasian or Hispanic, wavy brown hair, ball field, 13 Sept. 2019
     
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    Dr. Phil is just coming on here where I live. Watching it now. I'll reserve comments until I catch up.
     
  10. cass523

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    I agree totally. Perfect analogy @Gardener1850
    with what has been said in the media
     
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  11. imstilla.grandma

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    So I guess Rodriquez is going to deliver this Bombshell Today! What the heck does this even mean? The way this is written up reveals the power of media production and editing. Surely, this woman was properly vetted. Where did she come from? Dr. Phil is offering national exposure for Dulce. This is wonderful. It’s also good for business. I have not seen a Dr. Phil missing child case promoted so highly in awhile. The internet is flooded with articles and videos today. My hope is the show ignites positive directions for all involved and affected. Someone knows something.
     
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    15 minutes in this mother appears way too um
    "uninterested" is the word I'm coming up with.
     
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    Ok good to know , I will go play catch up now , Thank you Gardener!!!
     
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    Dr Phil show - just my initial reaction to the interview, but there is just a bit more emotion when Noema speaks in Spanish, but her tone remains about the same.
    I’m just not getting a good feeling.

    4 females at the basketball court? I thought there were two dozen?
    Black male?
    Polygraph results?
    FBI spoke to the little brother?
    I’m more confused now.
     
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    “People have been wanting to ask you: Did you do this? Did you sell your daughter? Are you involved in her abduction? Do you know who has her? I’m asking you those questions so people can hear you from your own lips say the answer to those questions, and you’ve answered them.

    “You did not sell your daughter, correct?” Dr. Phil asked.

    “No,” Alavez Perez responded.

    “You don’t know who has her?”

    “No.”

    “You’re not involved in her abduction?”

    “No.”

    “I didn’t want to believe that somebody had took her. I was in shock,” she said.
    'Did You Do This?': Dr. Phil Presses Mother Of 5-Year-Old Dulce Maria Alavez For More Information On Missing Daughter

    Direct video:
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    Oh, tell us more.
     
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    She did not use the friend’s name.

    Dr. Phil repeatedly asked the mother if she knew who might have taken her daughter. After repeatedly being pressed, she said an old friend who once tried to date her would be her first suspect.

    “Last time he saw me -- me and my father together -- and he just waved at me and said hi. He asked me if that was my daughter,” Alavez Perez said.

    "I told him yes.”

    Dr. Phil never asked her to name the man, but inquired if there was anything that caused her to think that man was “off.”

    “No, but he was trying to get to me but I didn’t allow that," she responded, referring to him wanting to date her. "He just insisted, but I told him no.”

    Bridgeton Police Chief Michael Gaimari acknowledged Friday afternoon that Alavez Perez had previously told them about that friend, but “nothing substantial came out of the people that she brought up … at this time.”
    Mom of missing 5-year-old Dulce Alavez, pressed by Dr. Phil in national TV interview, suspects ‘old friend’
     
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    Perez didn't name the man or say why, specifically, she thought he could be involved in her daughter's disappearance.

    Rodriquez told New Jersey 101.5 after the interview aired that this individual is being investigated, but she could not discuss it. Police have not confirmed that, and the Camden Coutny Prosecutor's Office told New Jersey 101.5 Friday afternoon it couldn't comment on the details of the investigation.

    Prosecutors have said the description of the man they're seeking is based on a different witness report than that given by the child who said Dulce had gone toward a van. They haven't said who provided that description.

    Webb-McRae has not said publicly if someone has come forward.

    Perez said she took a lie detector test but police did not share the results.

    McGraw suggested to Perez that her 3-year-old son, who does not speak, witnessed Dulce's abduction. She said the FBI tried unsuccessfully to communicate with him.

    Perez and Rodriquez said Dulce's grandparents are upset at Perez because she allowed the children be in the park alone, and think she may know something as well.
    Pushed by Dr. Phil, Dulce's mom says 'old friend' could be kidnapper
     
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    IMO the mother had nothing to do with it , also IMO if she did they would know already I don't think she could outsmart LE from what I see she s not the think fast devious type , I don't think she is at all involved.
     
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