AMBER ALERT NJ - Dulce Maria Alavez, 5, abducted at Bridgeton City Park, 16 Sept 2019

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  1. Elliot_Alderson

    Elliot_Alderson Well-Known Idiot

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    I'm reserving judgment at this time. Not gonna jump all over the mother or view her as a suspect. Seems to be extremely cooperative and engaged with assisting LE from what I have read. JMO.
     


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    I agree. At first I’m always preemptively thinking it was a guardian or something happened at home... but based off the photos and timeline etc. I’m sad to say I think she’s been abducted. The park on the map seems rather large so I still have a bit of hope that she’s lost or stuck somewhere there.
     
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    In many missing kid cases there are dual investigations. It doesn't necessarily mean there is evidence of a crime. I think LE departments that do this as an automatic protocol are smart. Cover all the bases just in case.
     
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  5. hollye

    hollye Well-Known Member

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    Here is a map with a couple of possible key locations These are locations that I have deducted and not necessarily what has been posted in MSM. If someone has any different or additional info, please let me know and I can add it.

    Dulce Maria Alavez - Missing 18 Sept 2019 - Google My Maps
     
  6. Rosiebones

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    Thank you @hollye for those sites. Was the Coastal Mart included because you knew it to have surveillance cameras and would have been on a route to her home or was it mentioned on MSM to have picked up DMA?
     
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    So that would mean she had a shirt change, or maybe a light sweatshirt, put over her shirt
     
  8. hollye

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    I am not local to the area, but have seen a couple of people state on SM that it looks like Coastal. I am not certain where they were coming from when they stopped for ice cream and went to the park. The kids are dressed in civilian clothes in the photos, but Dulce appears to be wearing a uniform in the photo with her backpack and the school district appears to require uniforms at their schools. Did they change clothes at home before heading for ice cream and the park? Not having kids who are required to wear school uniforms, I am not sure whether it is common practice to change out of school clothes into play clothes or not. Did they go to school yesterday? What school does Dulce got to and is it the same as her aunt? Does her aunt live with them or near by? Or did mom have to go elsewhere to pick her up? So many questions...
     
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    So the parking lot is not so far from the park. Is it possible that there is no benches to sit at the park, so mom decided to stay in the car? I think sometimes parents loose their kids reins when they are with other kids, or older kids? so like safety in numbers.
     
  10. zecats

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    The park is normally accessed from along the road that passes through it. That includes the zoo, a playground, some ball fields. Most likely, no one would venture into the woods around the day-use areas. I used to take my kids to the zoo there when they were little and the whole area is very close to the town. It's basically a drive that passes from middle of town down past the lake and beach area.
     
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    My kids were uniform to school, the little one keeps his uniform on, because they are usually dirty, the older one might change and get another day out of his shirts/pants. However that is just how my kids do it.
     
  12. hollye

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    Google Maps

    Here is a possible custard stand (what we call soft serve ice cream in South Jersey) near the park. Mom was quoted as saying they had stopped at a custard stand to get ice cream before going to the park.
     
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    Perhaps it could also have been the Trolley Barn Ice Cream and Water Ice at the southern end of the park. That would have been on the route from her home on Church St. and the playground.
    Wonder if someone saw her and followed the family to the park?
     
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  15. hollye

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    I hadn’t seen that quote. Where did you find it? I’ve only seen mention of the stop for ice cream, which is what it appears that they are doing in the surveillance photos.
     
  16. swanniee11

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    I agree, I'm more concerned about RSO's in the area. IMO. praying she is found safe.
     
  17. zecats

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    I noticed that too. From experience around here, usually when someone says custard stand, that's what they mean. They wouldn't have called the other place that, imho. to set in stone though, so could be the place they went.
     
  18. zecats

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    Visit the Zoo

    Here is the zoo site with a map of its location in the park and its layout. It takes up a good deal of the area and is fenced to protect the animals. Just in case this helps with orientation.
     
  19. zecats

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    Police in Bridgeton are looking for a 5-year-old girl who went missing on Monday night while playing with a sibling at a park playground.

    Police searching for 5-year-old girl who went missing Monday night in Bridgeton park

    Dulce Maria Alavez was last seen in the area of City Park in Bridgeton, police said.

    The girl’s mother, 19-year-old Noema Alavez, drove her kids to a playground area in the park a little after 4 p.m., she told police. They had just gotten ice cream at a nearby custard stand.

    Note - could be they bought ice cream at the Coastal, but it would have most likely been pre-wrapped store brand type. Coastal is a gas station with a small grocery area and doesn't normally have a custard stand. JMO
     
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    This is not looking good. How far could she have walked or run to in just a matter of minutes? If she's been abducted, I PRAY he drops her off somewhere safe.
     
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